Dodgers GM Ned Colletti said today that he hopes to add a starting pitcher to his club's rotation, writes Ken Gurnick of MLB.com. Colletti didn't specifically name any targets, but said that he's "starting to focus on who" could be available before next month's trade deadline.
"The conversations have picked up a little," Colletti said. "It doesn't seem that anything is really hot. There are six or seven weeks to go [until the trade deadline]. Teams holding on to pitchers, their value won't go down unless they get hurt."
Although they're tied atop their division with a record of 38-28, the Dodgers have been using a pair of rookies in their starting rotation. With John Ely (9.20 ERA in his last three starts) and Carlos Monasterios (7.27 ERA in his last two starts) struggling as of late, starting pitching is becoming an increasing concern for the team.
The Dodgers are expected to be a suitor in the Roy Oswalt and Cliff Lee sweepstakes, though it's unclear if they have the necessary prospects and financial resources to acquire either ace. Pedro Martinez, who wants to pitch for a contender this season, could also be an option for the defending NL West champs.
they wont get any of those guys.
I’m guessing Ben Sheets. Oswalt costs too much money, Lee too much in prospects.
Are we considering the A’s out of it already?
I heard something about the Dodger’s not minding picking up the tab on Oswalt’s salary but not wanting to give up prospects so I’d put my money on Oswalt or Haren considering the Dodger’s have dealt with Arizona as recently as last year in the Garland trade. Probably going to end up with Silva from the Cubs or Duke or Maholm from the Pirates as our trade for an ”ace” though..
Agreed, being a Cub fan they might give a deal involving Silva and Gorzallaney, if the Dodgers` are willing to give the Cubs some good prospects back.
Silva maybe but I don’t see them giving up more prospects for a 2nd pitcher we don’t need unless one of Ely or Monasterios is included.
im sorry i meant to put we dont need silva, we need an ace!
I know we need an ace but this is the same organization who’s big move for a starting pitcher over the offseason was resigning Padilla. I can see them getting a pitcher like silva and calling it their big trade deadline move.
we don
Cubs have plenty of arms to give to the Dodgers
Zambrano 1 of 4 teams he said he would play for (BOS, NYY, LAD, CHW)
Lilly
Gorzelanny
Silva
They also look to trade Fukudome possibly to a team that needs OF depth. A trade of
Silva
Fukudome
at the deadline would be GREAT.
What do the cubs need?
money wise
lets get lee!
Ted Lilly would look real good in LA.
I think we get an ace(maybe Haren) but we include top prospects and use a guy like Ely as well. Ely has been very good in the majors, with his FIP, xFIP and tERA all supporting his ERA around 3.30… He could be good to a team like Az… 5 years of control, good talent, and can help right away
Orioles –
Kevin Millwood
for
Dodgers –
Kyle Russell, Lucas May or James McDonald
your kidding right? russell and mcdonald would be too much for a guy who hasn’t even won a game yet. you have to be better than that johnp
I didnt mean two of them I ment one of the three
He hasn’t one a game due to the lack of run support. He’s had a few rough starts but he’s been good in a batter’s park like OPACY. His ERA has be 3.5ish until his last couple starts.
well you can say hes been good but his ERA is above 5.00, i dont consider that good.
Indians – Jake Westbrook
For Dodgers
James McDonald and lower A ball level C Prospect type
I like this deal. McDonald doesn’t have a whole lot from what I’ve seen him do for the last couple years. But this means the Dodgers would have to eat the whole contract which seems less likely.
If the Indians were to eat all of Westbrook contract you would most likely be looking at something like.
Chris Withrow & Trayvon Robinson to even get the Indians talking but they ate Blakes contract to get Santana, so they most likely would for the right group of Prospects.
those guys for westbrook? you kidding me?
You are insane if you think we are giving up Withrow and Robinson for Westbrook
McDonald has been our MiLB pitcher of the year the last two seasons he has been eligible and posted an ERA in the 2s as a reliever last year in the majors…
Yeah I know he’s got some good awards and that he posted a sub 3 ERA last year out of the pen, but I just don’t think he’s got major league stuff to be an effective or frontline starter. I’ve watched him pitch and I just don’t believe him. Similar to how I felt about Andy LaRoche, he’s got the hype but I just don’t see him excelling at the major league level and I think the Dodgers should sell high on him. He was especially hittable last year in the late months. His opponent BA was over .280 in August.
I know you follow the Dodgers and their prospects as much as I do, but in my opinion he’s one of those Dodger top prospects that the Dodgers should sell high on. I definitely think the Withrow/Robinson suggestion would definitely be overpaying.
He will go as far as his offspeed stuff takes him. He doesnt have a 96 MPH fastball, but has a great curve and a change that he is working on. He had started to do well before an injury to his hammys. He will not be an ace or #2, but he has #3 potential.
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He will go as far as his offspeed stuff takes him. He doesnt have a 96 MPH fastball, but has a great curve and a change that he is working on. He had started to do well before an injury to his hammys. He will not be an ace or #2, but he has #3 potential.
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Yeah I know he’s got some good awards and that he posted a sub 3 ERA last year out of the pen, but I just don’t think he’s got major league stuff to be an effective or frontline starter. I’ve watched him pitch and I just don’t believe him. Similar to how I felt about Andy LaRoche, he’s got the hype but I just don’t see him excelling at the major league level and I think the Dodgers should sell high on him. He was especially hittable last year in the late months. His opponent BA was over .280 in August.
I know you follow the Dodgers and their prospects as much as I do, but in my opinion he’s one of those Dodger top prospects that the Dodgers should sell high on. I definitely think the Withrow/Robinson suggestion would definitely be overpaying.
The Dodgers NEVER do a fair deal. They only do a deal if they get something for nothing. Look back at how the Manny deal went and last year at the trade deadline. They added 1 million in salary for 4 players.
The Dodgers are a joke. They NEVER do a fair deal. If they get something for nothing from a desperate team they do the deal like with Manny. Maybe they do a deal with Arizona or Cleveland at the last minute.
Last year they added 4 decent players, but only had to pick up less than 1 million dollars.
I wouldn’t count the Dodgers out on either Oswalt or Lee, though probably Lee is the more likely deal. Haren seems the least likely. The team now has some hot pitching prospects in Monasterios, Ely and maybe Link. These guys weren’t even on the map two months ago but now they are serious trading chits.
Sorry dude, you don’t know what you are talking about if you think Monasterios is a hot prospect. Link and Ely are not the Dodgers top prospects either.
Gordon, Lambo, Withrow, Jansen, Robinson, Russell, Baez, Sands, Miller, Martin, Dejesus, and Webster are the most worthwhile Dodger prospects. They definitely are plenty good enough to land a Cliff Lee or Roy Oswalt, so MLB trade rumors sounds kind of stupid when they question the Dodgers ability to make a trade. That’s just because they are not fans of the team and have not heard of any of their prospects hype, there isn’t a Mike Stanton, Starlin Castro hyped type in the system right now.
If the Dodgers fail to make a trade it is 100% due to the ownership not wanting to pay.
Well dude I was talking about pitchers who have actual major league pitching experience and have shown that they can play at that level. Obviously they are the top pitching prospects currently or management would have brought up somebody else to plug the gaps.
Of course if they fail to make a trade it’s due an unwillingness to pay. That’s always the proposition no matter which team you’re talking about.
Just because they are pitching in the majors right now does not mean they are our best pitching prospects it just means they were the next minor leaguers who were ready to move up to the next level. Alot of our pitching prospects are too young or do not have enough minor league experience to be in the majors yet, but give it a year or two and you’ll see some of them. I do like Ely, but I think his move to the rotation was management just giving him a shot to see what we got and he proved to be a pleasant suprise. Don’t care much for Monasterios though, I don’t think he is as good as his record or ERA show and if it weren’t for his rule 5 protection he would probably be in the minors right now. I think either would be a good addition in a trade because of what you said, they do have major league experience now and have shown they could be effective against major league hitters.
The key word in my post was “currently.” The Dodgers have all sorts of arms throughout the minors, but it was Ely they jumped almost directly to the big team from double-A. They must have liked what they saw in his few games in Albuquerque. You’re probably right about Monasterios, he would not be in LA if it wasn’t for Rule 5, but then he wouldn’t be there if the Dodgers had better options either. By definition that kind of means he’s good enough to play in the majors somewhere. He’s trade bait. Maybe.
Ely has always been a starter. He is a control artist and his 3.3 ERA is backed by his FIP, xFIP and tERA. He has been as good as he seems he has been.. which is very impressive for a young pitcher. Ive said it many times, he reminds me of Kuroda. #3 most of the time, but has the talent to be a #2(and they are similar pitchers, w/o the fast FB or high K rates, but low walk rates and good overall control
I agree, Ely is as rough around the edges as you’d expect from a rookie who’s been thrown into deep end, but he’s really shown ability and attitude. Ely was a gift, especially coming the way he did. I’d hate to see him traded because of his upside potential, but if it would bring us Oswalt for a couple of seasons, I could hold back my tears.
Agree. IMO trading him for Lee would be dumb(better pitcher, less control), but of he is a key piece for Haren or Oswalt, we thank Ely and send him on his way
Oh, didn’t mean to be a jerk, I can write that way sometimes, my bad.
A few people have mentioned shipping off Monasterios. I’m not familiar with Rule 5 rulings, but are the Dodgers even able to trade Carlos? Would they have to offer Carlos back to his original team because they are removing him from the 25 man roster like if he was being sent down?
He is tradable, but the Rule 5 restrictions go along with him — he’d have to remain on his new team’s 25-man roster for the rest of the season, or be offered back. This probably lowers his trade value some, but not so much for a team which giving up expensive pitching and rebuilding. I can see him being part of an attractive package with Ely, but I doubt the Dodgers are going to want to give up two of their current starters until they know whether Padilla is going to be effective.
All you people that think Monasterios is really good, and a possible trade chip are only caring about ERA. That is not the only important thing, and Monasterios was never close to being as good as his ERA, as has been shown in his last few blow up starts. No team will make any trade centered around acquiring Monk, the dude was a rule 5 draft pick ya know?
He wouldnt be a center, but Monk and Ely together give a young team 2 guys who can help the team right away at little to no cost
This time of year the Dodgers always release rumors to the press that they are working on a deal for quality pitching. The trade deadline comes and goes and the Dodgers never spend on anything. So I do not see McCourt opening up his wallet now for pitching. He made $110 million in profit last year and paid no taxes. His divorce with the Skank is now at 20 million for attorneys and escalating
what does this: “FIP, xFIP and tERA” mean?
I will be happy to answer you when you can tell me what it has to due with my comment?
what does this: “FIP, xFIP and tERA” mean?
A trade that would inculde dealing Broxton, possibly Loney (although I don’t like Loney going) away would be good. I’m sick of Broxton blowing it. BOTTOM LINE, if the Dodgers don’t secure Cliff Lee, Roy Oswalt, perhaps Pedro, or the like, IT’S OVAH. Padres win. Furthermore, I’m tired of Torre touting Jamey Carroll. Torre go bye bye.
A trade that would inculde dealing Broxton, possibly Loney (although I don’t like Loney going) away would be good. I’m sick of Broxton blowing it. BOTTOM LINE, if the Dodgers don’t secure Cliff Lee, Roy Oswalt, perhaps Pedro, or the like, IT’S OVAH. Padres win. Furthermore, I’m tired of Torre touting Jamey Carroll. Torre go bye bye.