The Braves are considering Josh Willingham, Corey Hart and Jose Bautista as they look to upgrade their offense with a right-handed bat, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. No deal appears imminent, but the Braves, who just lost Jason Heyward to the DL, are clearly setting their sights high.
Willingham had a .407 OBP and a .498 slugging percentage even before he homered again tonight. And Hart and Bautista started the day as the home run leaders in their respective leagues. All three outfielders will become free agents after 2011.
David DeJesus, who can be retained for $6MM in 2011, is less appealing to the Braves, partly because he hits left-handed. Should the Braves decide to upgrade over Matt Diaz, Melky Cabrera, Gregor Blanco and Eric Hinske, teams will presumably ask about pitching prospects such as Julio Teheran, Arodys Vizcaino and Mike Minor.
Jose Bautista would be a perfect bat in our line up!
Braves get: Jose Bautista
Toronto gets: Randall Delgado, Cody Johnson, and Brandon Hicks
Just seems like a good fit.
Yeah, you don’t really need to give up Delgado for Bautista.
If they’ll take Johnson and Hicks for him and maybe a low minor league arm, scream “SOLD!!!!!” and hang up the phone before they can change their minds.
haha that’s true. I didn’t think he’d be had that easy, since he is leading the AL in homers. Braves should take it.
Any team willing to give up more than a B prospect for Bautista is flat out off their rocker. Sure, he’s hitting for power; but he’s also hitting .234. He’s a 29-year old journeyman who is having a good first half, nothing more.
As a Padre fan, I hope the Braves go after Bautista and leave Willingham to the Padres. He’d be the perfect fit hitting behind Gonzalez.
Any team willing to give up more than a B prospect for Bautista is flat out off their rocker. Sure, he’s hitting for power; but he’s also hitting .234. He’s a 29-year old journeyman who is having a good first half, nothing more.
As a Padre fan, I hope the Braves go after Bautista and leave Willingham to the Padres. He’d be the perfect fit hitting behind Gonzalez.
As a Jays fan, I’d be willing to take a B prospect for Bautista.
Braves are desperate to win it all for Bobby. They’ll throw at least one A at you for him.
i’d take a C prospect for him. he can crush a ball with the best of them, but he can be pitched to so easily. dude is trying to back leg everything into outer space
As long as we dont trade Julio Teheran, its all good, I would rather not trade Cody Johnson, but if we can get a player of that Caliber, then I can handle trading Cody
Cody Johnson = strike out machine
Cody Johnson will never see the big leagues with his K rate and OBP. He’s Adam Dunn without the walks.
I hoped he would be the Braves power hitter of the future, but it appears to not be so. I wouldn’t put him in the organizational Top 20 anymore.
Cody Johnson will never see the big leagues with his K rate and OBP. He’s Adam Dunn without the walks.
I hoped he would be the Braves power hitter of the future, but it appears to not be so. I wouldn’t put him in the organizational Top 20 anymore.
I am not a big Cody Johnson fan. So I don’t mind trading him. But I don’t understand your comment about not wanting to trade him, but being okay with trading him for a player the caliber of Jose Bautista. If you are okay trading him for a player who really isn’t any good like Jose Bautista, who would you mind trading Cody Johnson for? Good players?
Remember folks, Jose Bautista has a career OPS of .751. His career OPS+ is 98. His hitting numbers, as a whole, are very comparable to Melky Cabrera. Bautista has played all three OF positions and 3B—all quite poorly. Yes, he has had a power and walk spike the past three months. But do you want to bet both decent prospects and playing time that he will continue this instead of turning back into the mediocre hitter he has always been?
I am not a big Cody Johnson fan. So I don’t mind trading him. But I don’t understand your comment about not wanting to trade him, but being okay with trading him for a player the caliber of Jose Bautista. If you are okay trading him for a player who really isn’t any good like Jose Bautista, who would you mind trading Cody Johnson for? Good players?
Remember folks, Jose Bautista has a career OPS of .751. His career OPS+ is 98. His hitting numbers, as a whole, are very comparable to Melky Cabrera. Bautista has played all three OF positions and 3B—all quite poorly. Yes, he has had a power and walk spike the past three months. But do you want to bet both decent prospects and playing time that he will continue this instead of turning back into the mediocre hitter he has always been?
take bautista and you can have him next year too after arb,
they will take delgado and johnson
your not ganna steal him from AA the man is dirty in the trade game
just wait until after all star game so jays can get snider back
I would like Willingham but we’d be trading within the division and they’d want a lot for him, heck no to Hart and a double heck no to Bautista. The guy that I want that I’d be willing to give up some young pitching for is Matt Kemp!
Braves get:
Matt Kemp – OF
Dodgers get:
Jair Jurrjens – SP
Melky Cabrera – OF
J.J. Hoover – SP
Yes, Jay! That would make perfect for a trade for the Braves. Maybe even add Jordan Schafer in the mix cause if Kemp arrives, there’s no room for Jordan anymore.
As a Braves fan, I do it in a heartbeat. Hell, I’d throw in Arodys.
Braves have been 37 – 19 without Jurrjens. I imagine that record would be a lot higher with Kemp as the starting CF.
As a Braves fan, I do it in a heartbeat. Hell, I’d throw in Arodys.
Braves have been 37 – 19 without Jurrjens. I imagine that record would be a lot higher with Kemp as the starting CF.
Do you think JJ Hoover is necessary in that deal?
Take him out and I like it. The Braves can’t keep Melky+Diaz next season regardless, and if Medlen and Minor are ready for rotation slots in the near future, one of the starters has to go. Sell high on Jurrjens and avoid arbitration with Boras.
Do you think JJ Hoover is necessary in that deal?
Take him out and I like it. The Braves can’t keep Melky+Diaz next season regardless, and if Medlen and Minor are ready for rotation slots in the near future, one of the starters has to go. Sell high on Jurrjens and avoid arbitration with Boras.
more accurately:
Braves get:
Matt Kemp – OF
Dodgers get:
Jair Jurrjens – SP
Melky Cabrera – OF
J.J. Hoover – SP
Executive of the year award
More like:
Braves get nothing because the Dodgers have no intention of trading Kemp.
Though some have said that’s the best thing for the Dodgers to do.
Though some have said that’s the best thing for the Dodgers to do.
More like:
Braves get nothing because the Dodgers have no intention of trading Kemp.
more accurately:
Braves get:
Matt Kemp – OF
Dodgers get:
Jair Jurrjens – SP
Melky Cabrera – OF
J.J. Hoover – SP
Executive of the year award
The Dodgers wouldn’t need or want Melky, even if they were losing Kemp. Reed Johnson could play CF and put up better numbers. The Dodgers also have Xavier Paul in AAA who has a line of .345/.402/.633/1.035.
Still, Jurrjens + a solid reliever would probably get the deal done for Kemp.
braves need a RH CF. None of the guys mentioned are worth Delgado, Teheran, or Vizcaino. Diaz/Hinske can hold down LF. Melky/Nate/Blanco in CF has become the issue now
bautista plays centre actually
centre?
Is that like a fancy kind of Center Field? =)
Centre is actually the correct spelling of the word almost everywhere in the world. Americans have adopted a completely incorrect spelling of many English words, which is rather annoying to me at least.
or rathre annoying?
Centre is actually the correct spelling of the word almost everywhere in the world. Americans have adopted a completely incorrect spelling of many English words, which is rather annoying to me at least.
it is canadian spelling but only an american would assume they are right and everyone else is wrong
are you from Quebec? Because you’re sounding pretty French right now.
are you from Quebec? Because you’re sounding pretty French right now.
centre?
Is that like a fancy kind of Center Field? =)
Absolutely not. While I would love a RH hitter, I would not accept trading Delgado, Teheran, or Minor. Maybe Arodys, but for a team controlled RH hitter.
hahaha. Yeah right. Anyone of those players mentioned as possibilities to be acquired for Julio Teheran, Arodys Vizcaino or Mike Minor is absolutely ridiculous unless it was Matt Kemp. I really think he’ll be out on the trading block and I wouldn’t mind seeing him in a Braves uniform. Actually, he’d be perfect!
There is absolutely no reason to believe he will be traded. Kemp was signed to a two-year deal in the off-season (first two arbitration seasons) and the Dodgers have done nothing since to indicate they will trade him. Furthermore, the Dodgers are contending and not exactly a candidate to trade a productive player for prospects. I mean hell, you might as well talk about trading for Pujols or Braun. It just won’t happen.
On the other hand, I am sure fans of other teams talk about how they’ll get Heyward from the Braves.
The last time I checked, Matt Kemp isn’t on the same level as Pujols, Braun, or Heyward.
The last time I checked, Matt Kemp isn’t on the same level as Pujols, Braun, or Heyward.
I’m a Dodger fan but I could definitely see the Dodgers trading Matt Kemp for a young front of rotation pitcher. Jair Jurrjens + pitching prospect (or a reliable bullpen arm) for Matt Kemp seems reasonable.
The Dodgers are contending but –
1. They need a front of rotation pitcher more than they need Matt Kemp’s bat. Their bullpen is being hammered because starters aren’t going deep into games, and said bullpen is terrible beyond Broxton, Kuo, Weaver and Belisario. Acquiring a front of the rotation pitcher moves Billingsley, Padilla or Ely to the bullpen (most likely Ely, though Billingsley might deserve it more).
2. The Dodgers farm system is incredibly weak, and trading prospects for a front of rotation pitcher is largely out of the question. I doubt the Mariners would be enticed by the likes of Gordon and Withrow while the names of the Mets and Yankees top prospects are being thrown around for Cliff Lee.
3. Ownership seems highly unlikely to take on payroll beyond a couple million. Makes Roy Oswalt unobtainable.
4. Benching Matt Kemp for 3 consecutive games definitely indicates management’s frustration with his approach to the game. Rumors have been ongoing that he is difficult to coach and doesn’t take advice.
5. Xavier Paul is batting a ridiculous .345/.402/.633 in AAA. That’s a 1.035 OPS. It would seem he could replace Kemp’s production (especially the way Kemp has been hitting lately).
Difficult to coach = Bobby Cox success story… i.e. Gary Sheffield who had no problems in ATL that were supposedly existent elsewhere
Difficult to coach = Bobby Cox success story… i.e. Gary Sheffield who had no problems in ATL that were supposedly existent elsewhere
There is absolutely no reason to believe he will be traded. Kemp was signed to a two-year deal in the off-season (first two arbitration seasons) and the Dodgers have done nothing since to indicate they will trade him. Furthermore, the Dodgers are contending and not exactly a candidate to trade a productive player for prospects. I mean hell, you might as well talk about trading for Pujols or Braun. It just won’t happen.
On the other hand, I am sure fans of other teams talk about how they’ll get Heyward from the Braves.
I doubt the Cubs would trade Marlon Byrd, but he’d probably be a perfect fit. But, would they be interested in Jeff Baker or Xavier Nady? Take them, please. Please.
I doubt the Cubs would trade Marlon Byrd, but he’d probably be a perfect fit. But, would they be interested in Jeff Baker or Xavier Nady? Take them, please. Please.
No Willingham because the Nats are f’ing leaches and will try to suck as much out of us as possible. Jose Bautista is a thought but we have enough guys batting under .260. Corey is the freaking man this year but the Brewers said a day or two ago that they wouldn’t dismantle the team. And Kemp would cost WAY too much. I’d prefer to not lose Teheran or Minor but Delgado, Cody Johnson, Zeke Spruill, Christian Bethancourt and Jose Ortegano are all legit trade candidates. Not sure about Arodys, don’t know a whole lot about him and Mycal Jones would probably have some value but I’d rather not lose young infield depth like him and Hicks. Chipper will be gone soon and I’m not sure how much more patience the club has for Escobar.
No Willingham because the Nats are f’ing leaches and will try to suck as much out of us as possible. Jose Bautista is a thought but we have enough guys batting under .260. Corey is the freaking man this year but the Brewers said a day or two ago that they wouldn’t dismantle the team. And Kemp would cost WAY too much. I’d prefer to not lose Teheran or Minor but Delgado, Cody Johnson, Zeke Spruill, Christian Bethancourt and Jose Ortegano are all legit trade candidates. Not sure about Arodys, don’t know a whole lot about him and Mycal Jones would probably have some value but I’d rather not lose young infield depth like him and Hicks. Chipper will be gone soon and I’m not sure how much more patience the club has for Escobar.
the only open spot we have is CF. LF is taken care of with Hinske and Cabrera. RF is covered by Heyward. That being said none of these players are CF’ers and are definitely not worth any of those pitching prospects including Delgado.
The Braves need to just go ahead and try to work out a deal for DeJesus that doesn’t break the prospect bank. We dont need a RH bat we just need a consistent bat in CF. After adding DeJesus we could then move Heyward back down in the lineup for more RBI opportunities.
Prado 2B
DeJesus CF
Chip 3B
McCann C
Glaus 1B
Heyward RF
Escobar SS
Hinske LF
Pitcher
Problem: the Braves don’t need another LEFt-handed hitter. I mean I like DeJesus, don’t get me wrong, but they need a guy who’s not only a right handed hitter, but someone with pop.
Not to mention the Royals are wanting a lot in return, so it’d cost the Braves an arm (Arodys) and a leg (Schafer). Nt worth the prospects unless it was a player that was an overall dynamic hitter.
No way Schafer is a leg…more like a toe
but dejesus hits leftys well
the only open spot we have is CF. LF is taken care of with Hinske and Cabrera. RF is covered by Heyward. That being said none of these players are CF’ers and are definitely not worth any of those pitching prospects including Delgado.
The Braves need to just go ahead and try to work out a deal for DeJesus that doesn’t break the prospect bank. We dont need a RH bat we just need a consistent bat in CF. After adding DeJesus we could then move Heyward back down in the lineup for more RBI opportunities.
Prado 2B
DeJesus CF
Chip 3B
McCann C
Glaus 1B
Heyward RF
Escobar SS
Hinske LF
Pitcher
Braves send melky and brandon hicks and cash to Milwaukee for Corey Hart
That’s not enough in return for the Brewers to even think about trading Hart .Besides they would want pitching mostly .
That’s not enough in return for the Brewers to even think about trading Hart .Besides they would want pitching mostly .
Braves send melky and brandon hicks and cash to Milwaukee for Corey Hart
It would be harder to get Willingham since he’s in our own division plus why make our own rival opponents better in the future?I can see Jose Bautista but come to think of it he could just be a fluke for all I know.This is his 1st time even hitting 20 homers for that matter in a single season.However Corey Hart makes alot of sense .The Braves did have interest in him last year remember?I think if we threw in Delgado,Spruill,Chad Johnson or Vizciano instead of Delgado and I think we could land Hart.After all Hart has proved hiself more then Bautista .
It would be harder to get Willingham since he’s in our own division plus why make our own rival opponents better in the future?I can see Jose Bautista but come to think of it he could just be a fluke for all I know.This is his 1st time even hitting 20 homers for that matter in a single season.However Corey Hart makes alot of sense .The Braves did have interest in him last year remember?I think if we threw in Delgado,Spruill,Chad Johnson or Vizciano instead of Delgado and I think we could land Hart.After all Hart has proved hiself more then Bautista .
Kemp is the type of player the Braves are looking for. Right handed, speed, and not a rental. He might be overrated but he has the talent to be a star in this league. I think a move away from Hollywood would be good for him. The kid did grow up in Oklahoma… He would play CF this season and possibly move to LF next year once Jordan Schafer rehabs from a broken wrist. The possibility of a future outfield of Kemp, Schafer, and Heyward is very appealing to me.
In addition, I highly doubt that Jurrjens would be included in any trade for Kemp, the guy is #2 starter status at 25, and shown no signs of regression. The Dodgers have no money, and need pitching that’s cheap and ready now. Minor or Medlen fit this bill as they would be upgrades to the rotation instantly. A deal based around Melky, Medlen, and prospects would probably be a realistic package in making Kemp a Brave. Do I want to give up Medlen of course not, but to get something you have to give something. The question is how bad do the Braves really need a hitter? The teams in 1st place and the chemistry with between these players is outstanding.
I really like the idea of getting Kemp if we could, he’d solidify our outfield for years to come 🙂
I really like the idea of getting Kemp if we could, he’d solidify our outfield for years to come 🙂
No, more of like a package built around one of Minor/Delgado/Vizcaino/Teheran. Melky doesn’t have that much of value either.
No, more of like a package built around one of Minor/Delgado/Vizcaino/Teheran. Melky doesn’t have that much of value either.
No, it wouldn’t. The Dodgers have no interest in trading Kemp. They may have money issues from the divorce, but Kemp is not very expensive. Also, the Dodgers are contending, so they are likely to move established players for prospects. So, no, a package based on Melky, Medlen, and prospects would not be a realistic way of making Kemp a Brave. There probably is no realistic way to do that.
You’re really insistent on this aren’t you? I do agree with you though, the Dodgers trading Matt Kemp doesn’t make any sense at all.
Unless they get a really strong return. Which the braves could theoretically come up with, if they wanted to.
You keep saying this, and yet they benched him the last 3 nights in a row, and he’d still be there if Manny hadn’t have gotten hurt. That’s a funny way to treat an integral part of the team. Not to mention the complaints from the club about his attitude all season long. Further, the pitching going back to the dodgers is all inexpensive salary wise. The Melky part is just to even up the money both ways and get rid of the extra OF for ATL. Medlen/JJ are both cheap, good team controlled players that would fit LA’s need for young cheap pitching nicely. I don’t see it happening either, but it’s certainly a decent value proposition
I agree with you. I’m a Dodger fan but I don’t think it is unfeasible at all that Kemp is traded for young, cost-controlled quality starting pitching.Jurrjens, Greinke, obviously Josh Johnson would all be guys that would fit the bill (the latter probably being untouchable the way he’s been pitching the last couple months). I’m not sure about Medlen just because I have doubts he necessarily helps the Dodgers contend this year.Melky has no value to the Dodgers, though. Reed Johnson (our 4th outfielder) is probably better, and Xavier Paul has a 1.035 OPS in AAA.
You’ll forgive me if a 25yo playing in a park with one of the highest offensive advantages in baseball doesn’t impress me overly – it’s his 3rd time in AAA too. Johnson can’t really hit and doesn’t seem to be able to play CF very well either. Melky would be useful enough for 2 months as a switch hitter who can fake it in CF and play the other two OF spots pretty well as a 4th OF, but I agree, he’s no prize.
When your competition is Ethier, Kemp and Ramirez, it should be no shock that Xavier Paul has spent more time in AAA than he should. Last year he also suffered a freak injury (staph infection) that kept him out of baseball for most of the season.
The Dodgers have an unofficial policy against keeping young players on the bench. They use veterans for all bench roles unless injury requires otherwise. When Manny was on the DL, Xavier Paul was brought up and started in LF. When Ethier was on the DL, Xavier Paul was brought up and started in RF. When those two got healthy, Paul was sent down to AAA. They like their young players to get regular playing time. Paul is widely considered throughout the organization to be the the heir apparent to Manny’s spot in LF.
Regardless of how much of a hitters’ park Albuquerque is, those are still impressive numbers. Xavier Paul should match the paltry production that Melky Cabrera puts up, and I don’t really doubt Reed Johnson could either. Sorry, I just don’t see Cabrera as someone that adds any value to a trade.
When your competition is Ethier, Kemp and Ramirez, it should be no shock that Xavier Paul has spent more time in AAA than he should. Last year he also suffered a freak injury (staph infection) that kept him out of baseball for most of the season.
The Dodgers have an unofficial policy against keeping young players on the bench. They use veterans for all bench roles unless injury requires otherwise. When Manny was on the DL, Xavier Paul was brought up and started in LF. When Ethier was on the DL, Xavier Paul was brought up and started in RF. When those two got healthy, Paul was sent down to AAA. They like their young players to get regular playing time. Paul is widely considered throughout the organization to be the the heir apparent to Manny’s spot in LF.
Regardless of how much of a hitters’ park Albuquerque is, those are still impressive numbers. Xavier Paul should match the paltry production that Melky Cabrera puts up, and I don’t really doubt Reed Johnson could either. Sorry, I just don’t see Cabrera as someone that adds any value to a trade.
You keep saying this, and yet they benched him the last 3 nights in a row, and he’d still be there if Manny hadn’t have gotten hurt. That’s a funny way to treat an integral part of the team. Not to mention the complaints from the club about his attitude all season long. Further, the pitching going back to the dodgers is all inexpensive salary wise. The Melky part is just to even up the money both ways and get rid of the extra OF for ATL. Medlen/JJ are both cheap, good team controlled players that would fit LA’s need for young cheap pitching nicely. I don’t see it happening either, but it’s certainly a decent value proposition
So just so I’m sure I understand your multiple posts… you don’t think the Dodgers are looking to trade Kemp, right?
The Dodgers need starting pitching because they’re also contending. Medlen or Minor aren’t going to step into the #1 or #2 spot in the Dodgers rotation, which is what the Dodgers really need. Jurrjens, however, can fit that need. Medlen or Minor wouldn’t necessarily be upgrades over Billingsley, Padilla or Ely. They need someone who can pitch deep into games and help take some innings off an overburdened bullpen
Melky is of absolutely zero value to the Dodgers. No thanks. Reed Johnson is our 4th outfielder and could put up better numbers, but we also have Xavier Paul hitting a ridiculous .345/.402/.633 in AAA. That’s a 1.035 OPS. Hopefully the Dodgers would go with him.
Jurrjens + a starting pitching prospect *or* a reliable bullpen arm for Matt Kemp.
Money shouldn’t be much of an issue since the Dodgers would be relieving themselves of Kemp’s salary.
Kemp is the type of player the Braves are looking for. Right handed, speed, and not a rental. He might be overrated but he has the talent to be a star in this league. I think a move away from Hollywood would be good for him. The kid did grow up in Oklahoma… He would play CF this season and possibly move to LF next year once Jordan Schafer rehabs from a broken wrist. The possibility of a future outfield of Kemp, Schafer, and Heyward is very appealing to me.
In addition, I highly doubt that Jurrjens would be included in any trade for Kemp, the guy is #2 starter status at 25, and shown no signs of regression. The Dodgers have no money, and need pitching that’s cheap and ready now. Minor or Medlen fit this bill as they would be upgrades to the rotation instantly. A deal based around Melky, Medlen, and prospects would probably be a realistic package in making Kemp a Brave. Do I want to give up Medlen of course not, but to get something you have to give something. The question is how bad do the Braves really need a hitter? The teams in 1st place and the chemistry with between these players is outstanding.
Of the three mentioned, Hart really makes the most sense. He plays excellent defense and could hold down RF until Heyward returns from the DL. He also has a lot of power. While Willingham is probably a better hitter he plays terrible defense and is suited for LF only. Also, I would not be in favor of giving the Nats even more building blocks for the future. Bautista is OUT, I hope they aren’t interested in him AT ALL. As for who they would give up, I am guessing that Teheran is untouchable. That would leave Vizcaino, Minor and Delgado as their top pitching prospects. I would think that the Brewers should consider a trade of something like Vizcaino, Spruill, and Schafer for Hart. I would give up less for Willingham.
It will be interesting to see if the Braves are willing to trade Minor, their top draft pick from last year. As a lefty starter (who they paid over 2 million to sign) I’m not sure that they would want to part with him.
That’s exactly the kind of trade the Brewers would (or should) be looking to do in July, assuming they don’t make a massive turn around before the All-Star break.
That’s exactly the kind of trade the Brewers would (or should) be looking to do in July, assuming they don’t make a massive turn around before the All-Star break.
Of the three mentioned, Hart really makes the most sense. He plays excellent defense and could hold down RF until Heyward returns from the DL. He also has a lot of power. While Willingham is probably a better hitter he plays terrible defense and is suited for LF only. Also, I would not be in favor of giving the Nats even more building blocks for the future. Bautista is OUT, I hope they aren’t interested in him AT ALL. As for who they would give up, I am guessing that Teheran is untouchable. That would leave Vizcaino, Minor and Delgado as their top pitching prospects. I would think that the Brewers should consider a trade of something like Vizcaino, Spruill, and Schafer for Hart. I would give up less for Willingham.
It will be interesting to see if the Braves are willing to trade Minor, their top draft pick from last year. As a lefty starter (who they paid over 2 million to sign) I’m not sure that they would want to part with him.
I dont see why all of the braves fans here wanna trade Jurrjens. Even in his only 5 starts of the season, his WHIP is only 1.38, which is lower than Tommy Hanson’s and Derek Lowe’s.
I say the braves try to go for Ryan Braun. Ya its a stretch, but could they land him for Arodys, Hoover, and like Hicks??
Please look up guys’ contracts before posting ideas like this. Braun is about as off limits as any player in MLB.
Please look up guys’ contracts before posting ideas like this. Braun is about as off limits as any player in MLB.
LOL wishful thinking…never gonna happen. His contract is as good as it gets other than longorias. Unless you offer the brewers like tommy hanson, jurrjens, heyward all together, there is no way the braves get braun…
LOL wishful thinking…never gonna happen. His contract is as good as it gets other than longorias. Unless you offer the brewers like tommy hanson, jurrjens, heyward all together, there is no way the braves get braun…
Congrats! You are even nuttier than the guys who think we can land Kemp. (Actually, in a post above, I sarcastically mentioned him as a guy to go after because he is one of the most untouchable players in baseball.) Braun is young, cheap, and very, very good. There is no reason for the Brewers to trade him. To get the Brewers to listen to an offer for Braun, it would have to start with Heyward, and we aren’t going to do that.
Congrats! You are even nuttier than the guys who think we can land Kemp. (Actually, in a post above, I sarcastically mentioned him as a guy to go after because he is one of the most untouchable players in baseball.) Braun is young, cheap, and very, very good. There is no reason for the Brewers to trade him. To get the Brewers to listen to an offer for Braun, it would have to start with Heyward, and we aren’t going to do that.
I’m a Brave fan but no way would the brewers except he’s cheap for like 5 more years all around talent and would take adroys tearhen and some other talent like schafer. That probably isn’t enough right there
I’m a Brave fan but no way would the brewers except he’s cheap for like 5 more years all around talent and would take adroys tearhen and some other talent like schafer. That probably isn’t enough right there
I dont see why all of the braves fans here wanna trade Jurrjens. Even in his only 5 starts of the season, his WHIP is only 1.38, which is lower than Tommy Hanson’s and Derek Lowe’s.
I say the braves try to go for Ryan Braun. Ya its a stretch, but could they land him for Arodys, Hoover, and like Hicks??
BravesFanBrent,
Dream on about Braun. He’s going nowhere. Brewers have him under contract through 2015 at very reasonable cost. Hart’s not going to be traded either. Attanasio is not ready to break up his core because they played poorly in April and May. Brewers are not totally out of it this year, and there’s no reason they won’t be better in 2011. They have plenty of pitching in low levels of minors. Maybe they move Fielder in the offseason but only for a top line major league ready pitcher, ala Bumgarner or Daniel Hudson.
BravesFanBrent,
Dream on about Braun. He’s going nowhere. Brewers have him under contract through 2015 at very reasonable cost. Hart’s not going to be traded either. Attanasio is not ready to break up his core because they played poorly in April and May. Brewers are not totally out of it this year, and there’s no reason they won’t be better in 2011. They have plenty of pitching in low levels of minors. Maybe they move Fielder in the offseason but only for a top line major league ready pitcher, ala Bumgarner or Daniel Hudson.
Brewers would move Hart for a package cenetered around Jair Jurrgens.
Hart is a free agent after the season. Jurrjens isn’t even ARB eligible yet. Why would a team trade an established, inexpensive, successful starter for a one year rental? The Braves could get considerably more for a package centered around Jurrjens, also teams don’t generally trade their starters when they are in first place.
The Braves are in first place without him in the rotation. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
Get your facts first. Corey Hart is under Brewer control through 2011.
Get your facts first. Corey Hart is under Brewer control through 2011.
Brewers would move Hart for a package cenetered around Jair Jurrgens.
No one’s mentioned Jose Guillen? Kansas City is our favorite trading partner.
Plus he’s pretty much free
No one’s mentioned Jose Guillen? Kansas City is our favorite trading partner.
Ok, trade package guesses aside for one simple question. Who do you think we’re going to get? Nothing about prospects, just a name coming to the Braves will do. And where do you put him in the field/lineup when the J-Hey comes back. It’s very safe to guess we will actually get someone because Frank Wren is just that type of GM. Everyone answer.
I would love to see Michael Bourn and Josh Willingham in Braves uniforms by the trade deadline.
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Ok, trade package guesses aside for one simple question. Who do you think we’re going to get? Nothing about prospects, just a name coming to the Braves will do. And where do you put him in the field/lineup when the J-Hey comes back. It’s very safe to guess we will actually get someone because Frank Wren is just that type of GM. Everyone answer.
matt kemp is the ideal outfielder, then hart, willingham, and then bautista
How so? In something like 50 games, Hart has played better defense than Kemp in center field.
Hart’s wOBA is, for his career .348 which is just .006 less than Kemp’s. Plays more solid defense than Kemp(06 -37.4 UZR/150, 07 -11.3, 08 -2.9, 09 3.7, 10 -34.2, Career -9.2) to his career -3.0.
I thought Braves fans would have gotten sick of poor defensive outfielders last year with GA out in left field. To be completely honest I don’t see the need to make a move to boost our outfield. We are in first place without these guys and we could really use a pitcher that would force Cox to knock DLowe out of our rotation moreso than a right handed bat.
The Braves should absolutely NOT trade Delgado, Viscaino or Teheran. Especially for a half year rental of an outfielder we probably won’t even try to resign. Mike Minor was drafted to be trade fodder. Trade him.
all those OF are at least a year and half rentals
Why should the Braves trade Mike Minor? He have improved alot this season and while his projection when drafted seemed bleak and uninteresting but I don’t think that’s the case any longer because of his high K/9 in A/AA, he was even chosen for the future game. I think Teheran,Viscaino, Delgado and Minor will stay with the Braves unless they are offered a really good player that fits the team and I’m not really sure there are anyone like that on the market at this moment
Why should the Braves trade Mike Minor? He have improved alot this season and while his projection when drafted seemed bleak and uninteresting but I don’t think that’s the case any longer because of his high K/9 in A/AA, he was even chosen for the future game. I think Teheran,Viscaino, Delgado and Minor will stay with the Braves unless they are offered a really good player that fits the team and I’m not really sure there are anyone like that on the market at this moment
I keep reading that the Dodgers and their coaching are pretty much fed up with Kemp and his lack production. I’m sure he would be a great player to get, but I don’t see how he’ll be traded now with Manny Ramirez hurt last night. Oh well, a Braves fan can dream. haha
I keep reading that the Dodgers and their coaching are pretty much fed up with Kemp and his lack production. I’m sure he would be a great player to get, but I don’t see how he’ll be traded now with Manny Ramirez hurt last night. Oh well, a Braves fan can dream. haha
In regards to the Kemp talk, initially I thought it would be insane for the Dodger’s to even consider it. Then I found out some information that makes it a definite possibility…Kemp, Billingsley, Ethier, Russell Martin, and Loney all are eligible for free agency after the 2012 season.That said, the Dodger’s can’t keep them all. The Brave’s & Dodger’s match up really well in a deal for Kemp. They have our biggest need and we have their needs. The Dodger’s will HAVE to have pitching to stay competitive in the NLW….especially with SF and SD. They’ll likely be “forced” into retaining Billingsly and I see them making a hard push to keep Either and Loney. If Kemp really is out of favor in LA, then they might as well see what they can get for him. Sadly though, this is the kind of speculative deal that I can see getting done in the off season rather than in the next month and a half…..
just a though about the braves payroll, they have about 85 million garunteed for this year, last year they had about 98 million in payroll. 13 mil is a lot of money; i wonder what wren could/would do with it
crawford anyone?
To be completely honest I don’t see the need to make a move to boost our outfield. We are in first place without these guys
The Braves are in first place without these guys, but they certainly aren’t mortal locks to stay and/or finish in first at the end of the season. The Mets are right on our tails and are only going to get better with Beltran and a trade for a SP, perhaps even Cliff Lee. The Phils are close as well, and you can’t discount them despite their struggles lately.
The Braves are looking for offense because they want to make it that much harder for other teams to catch up, not because they’re struggling to make it to first.
And honestly, I don’t see how anybody could have a problem with trading one of our pitching prospects for one of those guys or even Kemp. These are the types of trades you have to make if you want to make a run for it, and the Braves happen to be in an “embarrassment of riches” situation when it comes to pitching prospects – which is exactly what other teams are looking for. I don’t think things could have worked out any better for the Braves had the planets aligned and declared to the heavens that this was the year of the Braves.
Also, Delgado is the second best prospect we have behind Teheran. Delgado hasn’t gotten as much media love as Teheran, but he should really be just as untouchable as Teheran. Unfortunately, Vizcaino, our third best prospect with the lowest ceiling (imo) of the three just got put on the DL so it may take Delgado if we’re going to make something happen now. =/
if they can stay ahead until the all-star break, then there isnt really a need to upgrade the outfield, unless its a really good center fielder. a platoon and diaz/hinske in left, heyward in right would be really productive. blanco’s got great defense and seems to have finally centered his approach at the plate around his speed, which has made him pretty effective… i guess we’ll have to see if he can keep up the production.
either way, keep all three of those prospects. the more we have, the greater the likelihood that one will stay healthy and hit their ceiling in the bigs. i dont think the needs great enough to justify trading away however many years of delgado or teheran.
if they can stay ahead until the all-star break, then there isnt really a need to upgrade the outfield, unless its a really good center fielder. a platoon and diaz/hinske in left, heyward in right would be really productive. blanco’s got great defense and seems to have finally centered his approach at the plate around his speed, which has made him pretty effective… i guess we’ll have to see if he can keep up the production.
either way, keep all three of those prospects. the more we have, the greater the likelihood that one will stay healthy and hit their ceiling in the bigs. i dont think the needs great enough to justify trading away however many years of delgado or teheran.
To be completely honest I don’t see the need to make a move to boost our outfield. We are in first place without these guys
The Braves are in first place without these guys, but they certainly aren’t mortal locks to stay and/or finish in first at the end of the season. The Mets are right on our tails and are only going to get better with Beltran and a trade for a SP, perhaps even Cliff Lee. The Phils are close as well, and you can’t discount them despite their struggles lately.
The Braves are looking for offense because they want to make it that much harder for other teams to catch up, not because they’re struggling to make it to first.
And honestly, I don’t see how anybody could have a problem with trading one of our pitching prospects for one of those guys or even Kemp. These are the types of trades you have to make if you want to make a run for it, and the Braves happen to be in an “embarrassment of riches” situation when it comes to pitching prospects – which is exactly what other teams are looking for. I don’t think things could have worked out any better for the Braves had the planets aligned and declared to the heavens that this was the year of the Braves.
Also, Delgado is the second best prospect we have behind Teheran. Delgado hasn’t gotten as much media love as Teheran, but he should really be just as untouchable as Teheran. Unfortunately, Vizcaino, our third best prospect with the lowest ceiling (imo) of the three just got put on the DL so it may take Delgado if we’re going to make something happen now. =/