WEDNESDAY, 8:56pm: Encarnacion cleared waivers and was outrighted to Triple-A Las Vegas according to The National Post's Twitter feed.
MONDAY, 2:39pm: The Blue Jays designated Edwin Encarnacion for assignment, according to the team. The Blue Jays demoted Encarnacion, who they picked up in last summer's Scott Rolen trade, after yesterday's loss to the Giants.
There's no question that Encarnacion has power – he hit five homers in three games back in May – but his overall .200/.298/.467 was not enough for him to keep his roster spot. Unlike Rolen, Encarnacion is a poor defender (career -12.4 UZR/150 in thousands of innings at third) so his contributions are limited when he slumps at the plate.
The Blue Jays will replace Encarnacion by playing Jose Bautista at third or relying on new addition Jarrett Hoffpauir. The Twins and Angels could have interest in Encarnacion, as both clubs have banged up infielders.
Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos told MLB.com's Jordan Bastian (Twitter link) that he doesn't expect Encarnacion to be claimed, given "the performance and the salary of the player." Encarnacion makes $4.75MM this year, but other clubs could have interest in a deal if the Blue Jays take on salary.
What the hell? After that game where he was a wrecking crew? And he’s not even doing that bad!
Blue Jays, you craaaaaaaazy.
A sub .300 OBP is definitely very bad.
Oh, crap. When I posted his slash line wasn’t up there, and I wasn’t paying attention to him.
He still seems like he has so much promise, though.
His BABIP is RIDICULOUSLY low.
Yeah, I didn’t check that out, but you’re right a sub .175 BABIP is insanely unlucky.
Yeah, no. He’s been completely awful.
EE has been 1000 % terrible after that Colorado series. Nothing with the bat, awful in the field (as always) & can’t be bothered to run out any ball he manages to put in play.
surprised by this…surprised because of AA’s comments yesterday, and that they didn’t at least wait til Snider was back…this makes me think another move is coming, with another guy coming in shortly.
I heard they have interest in Mark Reynolds via unnamed source. Also snider is not due back until after all star break and that is the earliest time line as of now. Hoff is also mashing in triple even though it is the PCL, And E5 has not ran out a ground ball since he was in the Reds organization
“I heard they have interest in Mark Reynolds via unnamed source.” Is this supposed to be satirical?
Wow, wouldn’t be too bad to see Reynolds in a Jays jersey, although it’s scary to think of what they’d have to give up to aquire him.. It’s nice to see them giving Hoffpauir a shot, seeing as how he’s been raking in Las Vegas this year
I highly doubt that’s true.
He’s hitting .200, can’t fix a simple mechanical error in his throwing and he has the range of about a phonebooth.. Sorry E5 but This pretty much had to be done..
this is BS!!
this is all the fault of Jose Bautista and the unrealistic numbers he WAS putting up. i KNEW Bautista would come CRASHING back down to reality. whats he done in June? nothing! .145/.299/.291/.589 with 2 HR/ 5 RBI. Bautista is a BENCH player. atleast Encarnacion had potential. the Jays should have given Encarnacion regular playing time to see what they could have got with him, because Bautista SHOULD have no future with the team. im not saying Encarnacion would have turned into anything great, but he had more potential than Bautista. i laughed so hard earlier in the season when people talked about Bautista being an all star. are you kidding me?!! LOL at that! now you can probably expect Bautista to get regular playing time and he will continue to put up terrible numbers like he has in June. at this point you really cant even trade Bautista for anything good because his power time has passed. the Jays will be losing a lot and be stuck with Bautista.
once the Jays lose more and more and fall out of contention(you know its happening) they can bring Brad Emaus up from AAA where he is hitting well, to see if he is the Jays 3B of the future. 24 year old Emaus in AAA has .339/.409/.542/.951
Bautista is a waste!
bautista has nothing to do with this, no one likes EE and this was happening regardless when snider comes back
bautistas defense >>> EE Defense
EE potential > Bautista Potential
Bautista Offense = EE Offense (Bau better OBP, EE better power)
Bautista as a player now and future > EE
Bautista is a fluke but E5 was trash.
Why does everyone seem to think E5 has potential? The guy’s 27 years old and is in his 6th year at the MLB level. At this point, what you see is what you get with Encarnacion.
Special Ed indeed.
lol, I love how bautista hits 2 more hrs the day after your rant he is now leading the majors with 20 hrs. I’m pretty sure most teams would take that kind of production
lol, I love how bautista hits 2 more hrs the day after your rant he is now leading the majors with 20 hrs. I’m pretty sure most teams would take that kind of production
have to love these unnamed sources that random people talk about.
Next move: Trade Overbay.
Next move: Callup Brett Wallace.
This is just the first step to Wallace’s intro to Toronto fans. The Jays have been fun, but they should fade (they’re already in 4th!) and open the market soon.
Wallace hasn’t earned a callup. He’s not hitting all that well in a great hitters environment.
blue jays need to rent an apartment in vancouver (to establish residence) and apply for citizenship in the AL west
then call up wallace
You got to love Anthopoulos’ tenacity, quite the cutthroat businessman. Apparently, E5 accepted his demotion like a man but you have to think that someone went down for AA to straight up DFA him the next day. With a sub .300 OBP and awful defense, Edwin doesn’t deserve a place on teh starting roster anyways. Also lately, he was completely dogging on it on the baseplates even being called ‘lazy’ by the radio commentators.
The other night JP was on Baseball Tonight during a Jays highlight in which Wells drilled another homer, matching his total from all of last year. “Yeah, great. Little too late, thanks” Ricciardi said.
I lolled but AA has already set a muuuuch better course than JP and there’s no cute defensive comment to be made about it.
Agree on all counts. AA seems like a much better hand on the wheel (most people would be), but that’s a pretty funny moment.
He was DFAd so they could take Scott Richmond off the 60-day. They had to make SOME move to cover it and EE was expendable. If they could get someoen to take his contract it would be gravy.
I did not know his stats, but he made my Giants look silly. Somebody is going to pick him up.
I still wonder if this may be much ado about nothing. Is anyone going to claim Edwin and his $5M contract? I think he may still end up with the Jays down in the minors.
This is great news, I never did like E5 much if he didn’t have Overbay at first scooping up all of his dirt balls he would have a lot of errors, and he only has 1 or 2 good games a month with the bat.
when Snider comes back he goes to RF. the only way that would have effected Encarnacion would have been Bautista moving to 3B. but why? Bautista is a bench player and has no business being the starter at 3B, regardless of his numbers this season. thats why i say Encarnacion being released in partially because of Bautista’s fluke numbers. Bautista was hitting HR with a terrible AVG. Encarnacion could do that but better because Encarnacion has more power.
with Bautista now cold and back to normal your not going to get a lot for him, but he should still be traded.
its ridiculous to think Bautista is a better player than Encarnacion. Encarnacion is younger and has had better seasons. Encarnacion is only 27. Bautista is 29, 30 in October. it was 2007 when Encarnacion had 26 HR and .251 AVG, and the season before had .289 AVG. Bautista has only had 1 season with more than 117 games, in 2007 he had 142 games with career high .254 AVG and 15 HR. there is a reason hes been a bench player.
its not out of the question for Encarnacion to improve his AVG to the .260+ type range with good power numbers.
usually when a player has good power numbers its a good thing, but not with Bautista for the Jays. he handcuffed the team into getting regular playing time and effecting other players. now hes back to normal yet will continue to get regular playing time.
Except Edwin hasn’t shown power at all for Toronto except for one weekend. Say what you want about Bautista:
A) He can get on base by drawing a ton of walks – doesn’t sport a pathetic sub .300 OBP.
B) He’s versatile and can play numerous positions including a solid RF. Edwin is a gigantic defensive liability.
C) Average means absolutely NOTHING as a statistic.
Edwin has a absurdly low BABIP but will that change his sheer BUTCHERY in the field or his completely laziness on the basepaths? Nope. Good riddence.
Edwin has a absurdly low BABIP but will that change his sheer BUTCHERY in the field or his completely laziness on the basepaths? Nope. Good riddence.
Average means absolutely NOTHING as a statistic.Bah you beat me to it ;)Just to prove you right, Carlos Pena hit .227 last season, but still hit 39HR and had an OBP of .356Bautista may go into ‘hitting slumps’, but he still takes walks and lets his teammates drive him in, unlike EE who’d just swing at anything within 5 feet of home plate. Also, Bautista still has a suprising .529 SLG% after this slump started, and could/will rise once he gets hot again.
Average means absolutely NOTHING as a statistic.Bah you beat me to it ;)Just to prove you right, Carlos Pena hit .227 last season, but still hit 39HR and had an OBP of .356Bautista may go into ‘hitting slumps’, but he still takes walks and lets his teammates drive him in, unlike EE who’d just swing at anything within 5 feet of home plate. Also, Bautista still has a suprising .529 SLG% after this slump started, and could/will rise once he gets hot again.
it was 2007 when Encarnacion had 26 HR and .251 AVG, and the season before had .289 AVG.And take a guess where those numbers came from.. yup, the NL. What two games from EE come to mind this year? His 3 home run game and his 3 RBI game the other day, and what do you know, 3HR game was against Arizona and his 3 RBI game was another NL opponent [Giants].I can’t find his AL/NL offense splits, but I’d take a guess that E5 is a hitter built for the NL. Not to compare, but if he gets picked up by an NL team and does well, it’s just like Pat Burrell’s situation.
His insanely low BABIP is more of a result of him closing his eyes and praying like hell he makes contact than anything..
it was 2007 when Encarnacion had 26 HR and .251 AVG, and the season before had .289 AVG.And take a guess where those numbers came from.. yup, the NL. What two games from EE come to mind this year? His 3 home run game and his 3 RBI game the other day, and what do you know, 3HR game was against Arizona and his 3 RBI game was another NL opponent [Giants].I can’t find his AL/NL offense splits, but I’d take a guess that E5 is a hitter built for the NL. Not to compare, but if he gets picked up by an NL team and does well, it’s just like Pat Burrell’s situation.
His insanely low BABIP is more of a result of him closing his eyes and praying like hell he makes contact than anything..
Encarnacion could maybe get going better if he was to actually get consistent playing time. despite his low OBP numbers while with the Jays he still has a career .339 OBP.
despite the power numbers Bautista some how hit this season, power is not his game. i don’t remember the site or the number, but a high number of Bautista’s HR have just barely made it over the fence. Bautista’s SLG this season is ridiculously higher than any other season. 2010-.529 SLG. next highest, .420 in 2006. Encarnacion despite his useless stat that means absolutely nothing still has .467 SLG this season, .442 SLG last season with the Jays, and .449 SLG career.
AA has mentioned that he doesn’t think anyone will claim Encarnacion. what then? could he then just go down to minors? that could actually do him some good. get some time in at AAA where he hits well, then after some time he can come back up for the Jays maybe in August.
or isnt DFA mean if no one claims him he becomes free agent?
You’re probably talking about http://www.hittrackeronline.com. While Bautista has had 6 ‘just enough’ homers, he also has 6 ‘no doubt’ homers, and has significantly above average ‘speed off bat’ and ‘average distance’. The man’s hitting missiles.
i’d take bautista over edwin scissorhands any day. hopefully someone takes a chance on him and takes him off our hands as long as we get some kind of prospect back. unfortunately baseball is a game of “what have you done for me lately?”, and for encarnacion that is absolutely nothing. sure he had a nice game against the giants, but generally he makes a guest appearance in the offense every 3 weeks or so and is a constant nail-biter for fans on defense. i dont see room on any team for guys that cant hit, field or even hustle out some groundballs. i thought he had some potential when we got him from cinci, but it is long since i saw any indication that he is ready to consistently produce.
i dont mind giving hoffpaiur a chance, but personally i would have liked to have seen emaus since he is more a part of the future at only 24.
i’d take bautista over edwin scissorhands any day. hopefully someone takes a chance on him and takes him off our hands as long as we get some kind of prospect back. unfortunately baseball is a game of “what have you done for me lately?”, and for encarnacion that is absolutely nothing. sure he had a nice game against the giants, but generally he makes a guest appearance in the offense every 3 weeks or so and is a constant nail-biter for fans on defense. i dont see room on any team for guys that cant hit, field or even hustle out some groundballs. i thought he had some potential when we got him from cinci, but it is long since i saw any indication that he is ready to consistently produce.
i dont mind giving hoffpaiur a chance, but personally i would have liked to have seen emaus since he is more a part of the future at only 24.
as a Cincinnati Reds fan, I just lol’d
as a Cincinnati Reds fan, I just lol’d
Don’t say goodbye, just say so long. We’ll meet again someday, and we’ll sing another song.
– or –
As Michael Scott said to Charles Miner upon retaking control of the office, “No, you’re done.”
Either way, I’m a happy camper.
In this one thread, he’s been called “Special Ed”, “E5”, and “Edwin Scissorhands”. Is there another player in baseball with so many hilarious derisive nicknames?
In this one thread, he’s been called “Special Ed”, “E5”, and “Edwin Scissorhands”. Is there another player in baseball with so many hilarious derisive nicknames?
I can see the Astros, Marlins, Angels, Cubs, Indians, and Tigers trading for him.
I had hoped The E5/Rolen trade would be a win-win but here in Cincinnati we just gave up on seeing Edwin ever improve defensively. Obviously we’re pretty happy with Rolen though!
Toronto fans: I hope Jarrett Hoffpauir becomes a great player for the Jays!
the deal for the Jays wasnt even really around Edwin Encarnacion. he was more of a throw in with the prospect. i cant even remember the name right now, but the pitching prospect the Jays got was what they wanted more than Encarnacion.
The reason he was DFA’d is because they knew he would clear waivers. No other team would have been willing to take on his salary. The young man definitely needs some work in the minors, especially on defense.