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Free Agent Stock Watch: Joe Crede

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White Sox third baseman Joe Crede hopes to stay in Chicago beyond 2008.  He’s willing to have his agent, Scott Boras, negotiate in-season with the Sox – but only if the team approaches him.  Crede will still listen to the Sox after the season, but he’ll be on the open market after the exclusive negotiation period expires.

Will the Sox offer Crede arbitration?  The possibility that he accepts and they have him for ’09 seems a risk worth taking.  Crede would probably be a Type B free agent, and he’d likely decline arbitration in hopes of a multiyear deal.

It’s a weak free agent market for third basemen.  The closest guy to a regular besides Crede is Casey Blake, and he’s having a lousy year.  Boras should ask for more than three years and $25MM, since that’s what Melvin Mora is earning.  Mike Lowell’s three years and $37.5MM seems too much.  The Indians, Twins, Angels, Brewers, Dodgers, and Giants could be suitors. 

Rosenthal’s Latest: Crede, Lofton, Millwood, Dunn

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Ken Rosenthal has a new Full Count video up; let’s discuss.

  • Despite his .268/.330/.537 start, the White Sox would still entertain trading Joe Crede if it’d help the big league team.  This is a change from their apparent springtime willingness to deal him for prospects.  The most likely desire would be pitching, if the Sox can find a suitor.
  • Jake Peavy put on his GM hat, suggesting the Padres sign Kenny Lofton.  Rosenthal likes the idea, but notes that Kevin Towers will first turn to his farm system.  I discussed some future trade candidates for San Diego in my latest video mailbag.
  • Rosenthal suggests Kevin Millwood’s contract will be an obstacle in trading him.  He earns $8.5MM this year, $11MM in ’09, and a fairly achievable $12MM vesting option for ’10.  Plus there’s a limited no-trade clause.
  • Walt Jocketty’s biggest test this year might be deciding whether to trade Ken Griffey Jr. and/or Adam Dunn.  They both have no-trade clauses to deal with; even after June 15th Dunn’s includes most high-revenue teams.

Odds And Ends: Crede, Morris, Thomas

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Just a couple of lingering posts in my browser this morning.

  • It looks like Joe Crede is sticking by Scott Boras’s side as he enters free agency after this season. I can’t blame him. It’s one thing for a superstar like A-Rod or an established veteran like Kenny Rogers to do what they want. But Crede certainly benefits from being repped by Boras.
  • If Pirates GM Neal Huntington has plans to ditch Matt Morris, he’s not tipping his hand. The 33-year-old righty has been downright horrible since coming over to Pittsburgh, a gaffe made by who else by Dave Littlefield.
  • While Tim mentioned yesterday that Jon Daniels is leaning away from Frank Thomas, Manager Ron Washington is enticed. "I’ll take him in a heartbeat. Once he reaches 100 at-bats, he really does start hacking."

Posted by Joe Pawlikowski.

Orlando Cabrera Contracts Talks Will Wait

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According to Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune, the White Sox will not have further contract discussions with shortstop Orlando Cabrera until after the season.  While an extension is still possible at that time, the chances seem to decrease as he reaches the cusp of free agency.  Often when a guy is that close, he’ll then say he wants to explore the market.

Cabrera makes $9MM this year, with the Angels paying $1.5MM.  It’s a solid price for the Sox, but Cabrera has to be looking for three years and at least $20MM.  He’ll turn 34 in November, so it’d be a risky move.  Alexei Ramirez is the only viable replacement in the organization, but he’s no sure thing.  Kenny Williams could consider other free agent shortstops, of which there are a handful of decent options.

Gonzales’ article also has one line about the Sox waiting until season’s end to consider an extension for Joe Crede.  An extension would surprise me, but I could see them sticking with him all year.

What’s The Deal With Crede?

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The rumors of Joe Crede’s demise were greatly exaggerated.  With many people writing him off after a poor spring, the White Sox third baseman jumped out to a .393/.419/.679 start in 28 ABs.  That marks less than five percent of the season, but it’s a start.  South Side Sox is both supporting and doubting the early returns.

Understandably, Crede is leaving the trade and contract details in the hands of his agent, Scott Boras.  He’s earning $5.1MM this year, his last before free agency. The hot corner free agent market is looking bleak next winter, and Crede might be the best available.  No one’s expecting the Sox to extend Crede, but Kenny Williams has surprised us many times before.

The usual suspects remain the most likely suitors – the Dodgers and Giants.  There’s been nothing cooking on the Crede trade front recently with those clubs, though.

Odds and Ends: Papelbon, Darvish, Crisp

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Let’s round up some morning links.

Dodgers Scrambling for Infield Help

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With veteran infielders Nomar Garciaparra and Jeff Kent both likely to miss opening day, the Dodgers are scrambling to find themselves some backups. Ken Rosenthal says that since the Astros are unlikely to trade Mark Loretta while Kaz Matsui is out,  L.A. is considering Ron Belliard of the Nationals and Esteban German of the Royals. Another possibility, Morgan Ensberg, seems unlikely, as the Yankees added him to their 40-man roster yesterday. Joe Crede of the White Sox and Brandon Inge of the Tigers are both probably too expensive.

This could impact roster decisions Los Angeles will make on Monday, when they decide whether they can afford to carry twelve pitchers with so much uncertainty around their infield.

Ned Colletti, meanwhile, says he expects Monday to mark an uptick in trade chatter—but also that he’s content, for now, to fill his third base hole from within. It’s worth noting that  Ensberg’s spot on the opening day roster is still not guaranteed, and that Matsui is expected to return in two to three weeks, perhaps freeing up Loretta. 

Sarah Green writes for the Boston Metro and UmpBump.com. She can be reached here.

Market For Crede Dries Up

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Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times says the market for Joe Crede has "dried up," as the Dodgers and Giants have little interest.  Tough luck for Josh Fields, who seems headed back to Triple A.  Ozzie Guillen’s explanation for the lack of Crede interest:

This game has gotten to be a bunch of political, a bunch of [expletive] budget, a bunch of [expletive].  They forgot about the talent.

I’m not sure what Ozzie means by that.  Perhaps the "political" comment has something to do with Scott Boras, who represents Crede.  SI.com’s Jon Heyman offers an alternative explanation, quoting a scout who says Crede still looks hurt.

No Crede Trade Imminent

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Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune reports that it’s become "increasingly likely" that Joe Crede will get the Opening Day nod at third base for the White Sox, with Josh Fields heading to Triple A.  It’s an unfortunate situation for the 25 year-old Fields, who doesn’t have much left to learn in the minors.  Gonzales adds that trade talks with the Giants have "all but ceased," and the Dodgers don’t seem all that interested either.

Crede is trying to shake off the rust (his last regular season game was June 4th of last year) and prove he’s an above average third baseman worthy of his $5.1MM salary.  It seems that Crede’s audition will extend into April or May.  If he plays decently and a few teams suffer injuries or ineffectiveness at the hot corner, maybe Kenny Williams will get the return he wants.  Who knows – if Crede has a hot start, maybe the White Sox will decide to let him play out the season and have Fields work on his defense at Charlotte.  Or, Ozzie Guillen could pursue an interesting strategy posed by Sox Machine, where Crede is a defensive replacement.

Giants Plan To Keep Pitchers

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According to John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle, the Giants are looking to add a bat without trading pitching.  The names mentioned remain Joe Crede and Brandon Inge, but the White Sox and Tigers want hurlers.

The equation doesn’t seem to make sense on the surface – if the Giants won’t trade pitching, and they have no hitters to speak of, how are they going to make an acquisition?

As we learned Thursday, the answer is that the Giants may only be looking to trade undesirable veterans.  Names like Scott Williamson, Randy Messenger, and Dave Roberts have been part of Brian Sabean’s offers for Crede.  Kenny Williams scoffed at this, inquiring about Jonathan Sanchez.  The gap may be too wide to bridge.  I have to side with San Francisco on this one – the demand for Crede and Inge quite low, and the Giants don’t have a strong need for either. Aaron Rowand isn’t holding his breath for a Crede-to-San Fran trade.

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