TODAY: The Angels officially announced that Detmers’ contract has been selected. Infielder Kean Wong was also recalled from Triple-A, while James Hoyt and Luis Rengifo were optioned to Triple-A yesterday to open up roster space.
JULY 30, 8:10PM: Cobb is indeed going on the IL, according to the team. But it’s because of “right wrist inflammation” and not a blister.
7:19 PM: The Angels are going to promote top pitching prospect Reid Detmers to make his major league debut, according to Rhett Bollinger of MLB.com. Although Bollinger originally said the debut would be Saturday, the club later announced a change of plans, with Detmers starting on Sunday. Detmers is not on the 40-man roster but a corresponding move may not be necessary since the Angels subtracted from their roster with the earlier trades of Andrew Heaney and Tony Watson. Detmers, a 22-year-old lefty, is the Angels #2 prospect, according to MLB Pipeline, behind only Brandon Marsh, who was himself recently promoted.
This marks a fast jaunt through the minors for Detmers, having been drafted just over a year ago. He was the 10th overall selection in the 2020 draft and is widely-considered one of the top prospects in the game. He is currently ranked #24 at Baseball America, #57 at MLB Pipeline and #39 at FanGraphs. The Angels started Detmers in Double-A earlier this year and saw him flourish immediately. In 54 innings, he had a 3.50 ERA with an amazing strikeout rate of 43.1% and a stingy walk rate of just 3%. After being promoted to Triple-A, Detmers made one start, throwing six shutout innings with nine strikeouts and no walks. The Angels obviously felt they had seen enough to fast-track him to the majors.
Detmers will step into a six-man rotation that has struggled thus far this season. Despite some excellent contributions from Shohei Ohtani, Patrick Sandoval and Alex Cobb, the rotation ERA currently sits at 4.82 on the year, which puts them 21st in the league. That’s thanks to some woeful performances from Griffin Canning, Jose Quintana and Dylan Bundy.
Quintana and Bundy have also been making appearances out of the bullpen lately. But it’s unclear how the rotation will proceed in the short-term. Ohtani might have his start pushed back after recently getting hit on the thumb of his throwing hand by a foul ball, notes Bollinger. Additionally, Alex Cobb’s blister issue has persisted enough that he may hit the IL, according to Jack Harris of the Los Angeles Times.
rangers92
Little bit of a rush..
SoCalADRL
It’s the angels…of course they don’t how to handle top prospects
chalk73
How did they handle Trout?
Halo11Fan
You obviously don’t follow the Angels.
Ducky Buckin Fent
@Halo11 –
Wondering about your thoughts on Heaney. Seems like he’s had some solid years. Pretty ugly numbers this year, though.
Thanks.
Halo11Fan
There is no reason why Heaney is not one of the better pitchers in baseball. A new environment and a new pitching coach may do him wonders. The only good pitching coach the Angels have had in years was kicked out of baseball.
If you trust the Yankees pitching coach, this could be a great pick up by the Yankees. .
Ducky Buckin Fent
Appreciate the response. I am still unsure about Blake.
Geno55
The change of scenery will do Heaney good
bkbk
Eh, he talked at length about it. He has always struggled to repeat his physical delivery over a full game and he has never been able to fix the last 10%
Hes a good thougthful dude, I hope he finds it.
MrAngelFan
No doubt Heaney has all the tools to be great. He is just frustrating. He will look like an ace and go 7 innings, 3 hits one game and give up 5 runs in the first inning. the next game. This pattern has repeated itself for 6 years. I believed he could have a breakout year for a few years, but I gave up on him a few years ago.
MrAngelFan
@MillvilleMeteor I don’t know Ohtani and Trout seem to be alright. Even though Fletcher and Walsh were not top prospects, they seem to be doing alright. Sandoval and Stassi and far better than when the Angels received them. Developing players does not seem to be the issue.
Halo11Fan
What top prospects have the Angels had? Ohtani… check. Trout… check. Weaver… Check. Glaus… check. The only top prospect that hasn’t worked out was Wood.
And lots of non top 100 prospects that have done pretty darn well.
He doesn’t know the Angels very well.
Mark Smith
It’s not a rush at all. The experts said Detmers was the closest in last year’s draft to be ready for the majors. They even thought he might get called up last year. No rush.
screwball8
Garrett crochet was drafted last year by the white Sox and get the call last year to the bigs.
MrAngelFan
Detmers debut today. Let;s go. Let hope for a good debut.
On a side note,looks like we dodged a bullet by not drafting Kumar Rocker. A lot of Angel fans wanted this guy in spite of all the red flags.
Tsizzle27
Kid is gonna be a stud. Awesome to finally see some in house pitching prospects contribute in the show for the Halos. 2022 gives them a ton of payroll flexibility and they’ll definitely be in a better position to compete.
LaFlamaBlanca
Que the trolling comments about Trout, Ohtani, and missing playoffs in 3,2,1…
sonorawind
Trout is great, Ohtani is better than I expected (except he doesnt pitch enough and walks too many) and…………….the Angels are second behind only the Mariners, now, in years since making the playoffs.
Ohtani strikes out a lot of hitters…………..but EVERYONE does, these days.
DGHalos714
But…can he pitch? Yes…yes he sure can. And very well it seems. Seems kinda interesting that they bring him up if the felt like sellers. Or…they may expect a jolt in the rotation with Reed and CRod and then with Trout, Tony and Walshey coming back it can get interesting real quick. We barely missed the wild card last season with a lot less talent. I like what Perry and Joe are doing so far. It’s a process and will take some time. But I like where it’s headed now. Couldn’t say the same a year ago
bravesfan88
I tried to tell Angel’s fans that Perry was the real deal, and that you all’s team would instantly have a much brighter future with him at the helm.
I’m glad Angel’s fans are starting to realize just how lucky they were to get such a smart front office man like Perry
Halo11Fan
Perry is the reason the Angels are not in the race. How he handled the bullpen can only be called incompetent. He so far has done nothing to help this club’s future and has nothing to do with Detmers.
J.H.
He literally has done the exact same thing that Billy Eppler did for four years, and which ultimately got him fired. The future, and the present, for that matter, are the same as before he got there.
Halo11Fan
I’m hopeful he won’t make the same mistakes again, but he completely botched this off-season and almost all Angel fans know this.
J.H.
Not to mention that the only Angels’ GM that got them to the playoffs over the last 11 years, and who left because the organization chose a coach obviously past his prime, and who was also asked to move on just a few years later, is currently executing a plan within the same division that already has turned the Mariners into a better team than the Angels.
the sterling don
Ahh yes. You’re talking about the fantasy baseball GM.
MrAngelFan
@JH Padres You seem to be out of touch with reality. You need to look at the Angels record from 2000-2010 and the record after Dipoto got there. Dipoto was horrible for the Angels. He turned a perennial playoff team into middle of the road team.
The Angels have a similar record to the Ms this year and that is without Trout and Rendon for most of the year. That is not as good as you think it is.
sonorawind
So true. More dumpster diving.
Still no sign of Adell. September call up, I guess. Good OPS numbers, but it is SLC. Still King at a 30% rate. Even with all the Ks in baseball, I think that’s high..
MrAngelFan
We will see what Perry does this off season. There are a lot of good FA options. If Detmers works out, the Angels have a talented core of pitchers, Ohtani, Sandoval, Detmers, Suarez, and Canning. I would love the Angels to go after Scherzer, he would be the perfect one to lead this young but talented pitching staff. I know many will not agree due to Scherzer’s age and his AAV, but he could be the perfect fit. He will have the biggest impact on this staff. That being said there will be a ton of teams looking to get Scherzer.
J.H.
This is the same thing that has been said about the rotation for years, and it has not worked. It started with a core of Richards and Shoemaker, then Skaggs and Heaney, then this year it was Canning, and none of them could step up. That was part of the excuse for not signing top tier pitching, because ‘cheap depth was going to supplement that TOR potential. That is why the Angels have been irrelevant for the better part of the last decade despite having some of the best players in baseball.
Halo11Fan
Maybe one Angel starting pitcher will average over six innings. Maybe one.
The Angels need four relief pitchers that they believe can do the job. Right now they have zero.
Like last year, everyone looking at a different position, is looking in the wrong place.
Hopefully Perry the Platypus will turn into Agent P and grow a brain.
Halo11Fan
The biggest fixable reason the Angels have not won is relief pitching.
It was the biggest reason last year, it’s the biggest reason this year.
I have no idea why everyone doesn’t see this.
MrAngelFan
I think they should re-sign Iglesias or another closer. Use Bachman as the set-up and C-Rod for the 7th inning. Relief pitchers are the hardest gauge. The Angels traded for Hunter Strickland, who was having a good year for the Rays. He was awful for the Angels, now he is doing well again in Milwaukee. A bullpen’s fortune can change from year to year. The Red Sox bullpen was pretty bad last year and now is good.
It is not all the bullpens fault. The starters that started the season were awful. All of them were below average other than Ohtani and Cobb. If you do not feel more confident with Ohtani on the mound than with Heaney, Bundy,Canning or Quintana, I don’t know what to tell you. The Angels haven;t had a TOR guy since Weaver. I do not remember the last team to win a WS without a TOR guy..
MrAngelFan
The Angels starting pitching has been bad since 2014, which is the last time they made the playoffs. We are finally rid of the Dipoto ERA with Pujols coming off the books. The Angels need to get back to what made them a force from 2000-2010.
Halo11Fan
Mr. Angel.. and the bullpen has been worse. If the Angels don’t have a nice lead after five, then the Angels offense has to out hit their bullpen and they usually don’t.
And your bullpen solution is not close to being good enough. The 7th inning on is 500 innings, which is a lot more important than a great 180 inning starter that will cost 35 million.
I hope the Angels grow a brain a build a bullpen.
Halo11Fan
Let me make this more simple. It’s easier, less expensive and less dangerous to bring in an aggregate of pitchers to pitch like Scot Shields than it is to replace Weaver or Lackey.
It will cost hundreds of millions of dollars on the latter, the former will pitch more high leverage innings and cost a fraction as much.
Smart teams know this. So should smart fans. It’s great to draft and build a strong starting staff. For the other 25+ teams in baseball, the most important innings are bullpen innings.
J.H.
While I totally agree with you that the bullpen is an issue, Halo11fan, I will assert again, as I have before, that it is not the whole picture. A quick glance at the top teams in innings pitched by their bullpen will show you that the majority of those teams are struggling; except for the Padres and Rays, who do this by design, the top of the leaderboard is populated by teams like the Orioles, Marlins, Diamondbacks, Cubs, Tigers, Royals, Pirates, and yes – the Angels. What does that tell us?
It tells us that teams that have starting pitchers that struggle or can’t go deep into games end up not doing very well. Even the best bullpen cannot stand up to the workload of pitching four or more innings EVERY NIGHT. One of the best bullpens in baseball, the White Sox, is last in the league in innings pitched. Unless you’re the Rays, and have the skill and knowledge to build your team that way, you need starting pitchers that give you quality innings. The Angels could find the four best relievers in baseball but if you’re asking them to pitch every single night, they’re going to struggle.
So, while I acknowledge the strategy for the bullpen is lacking, so too is the lack of quality starting pitching, and the two are so closely aligned you can’t blame one solely over the other. They both need to improve, or neither will improve.
Halo11Fan
It’s not just innings pitched and of course starting pitching is lacking. But you can buy a lot more wins for less by building a bullpen. The Angels are not going to do both.
The Angels could have easily solved their BP issues for 15 million dollars. Alex Cobb is making 15 million dollars. That’s how much mediocre starting pitching costs.
I don’t get why people don’t understand this.
The Angels need more than 500 innings from their 7th+ inning guys. They are more important than one starter, and they cost a fraction as much, and every Angel fan should realize hoping and praying is a horrible bullpen strategy.
MrAngelFan
@Halo11Fan I agree it is best to build the starting rotation through the draft. This is what the Angels did for years prior to Dipoto. It was neglected for a long period of time except for the past couple years. you can’t make a full rotation via free agency. Do you really believe this is good enough to make the playoffs even with the best bullpen ever?
Heaney 5.27 ERA
Canning 5.60 ERA
Bundy 6.66 ERA
Quintana 6.70 ERA
That is 4/6 of the rotation to start the season. There answer is no. It is not good enough. It didn’t look good to start with and it played out that way. There is cause for optimism with starters, if Detmers proves he belongs at this level, this is the best our rotation has looked in years, Ohtani, Sandoval, Suarez, and Detmers. We may actually may have a decent rotation. Better than we have seen in a long time.
The Angels have not had solid stating pitching since 2014. I am sure that is probably the last time the had a decent bullpen. The two follow suit more times than not. The better your starters are the better your bullpen becomes.
Halo11Fan
Quintana was a huge mistake. I said so at the time with very little support.
Of course it’s not good. Heaney, Bundy and Canning were much better last year and the Angels lost because of the pen
This year the Angels pen has blown more games than the starters. The Angels can do very little about their starters, however, they can address their bullpen issues with little long term risk and for a fraction of the cost. Adding Slegers, Claudio and Guerra when the Angels didn’t have a 7th or 8th inning guy was pure incompetence.
J.H.
I agree with most of what you’re saying. The Angels’ pitching strategy, bullpen and rotation, has been awful for years and hasn’t changed over multiple front offices. My opinion (and it’s just that, doesn’t make it right or wrong, just how I view it!) is that the Angels need to fix the bullpen AND the rotation. If they don’t fix both, they won’t fix either.
And I slightly disagree in that, you need quality innings, regardless of where you get them, and adding someone like Scherzer or Cole who can give you 200+ is going to be more valuable than trying to cobble that together with four or five bullpen pieces, who you hope and pray will give you 50+ each.
SwingtheFNbat
MrAngelsfan, its pointless debating with this guy. He even throws out false numbers to benefit his point. Cobb didn’t cost 15m, only 5m and a very good get. You can make an argument about Q’S 8m signing being questionable at the time. But that said, put the 2 together and Cobb is pitching about a 13m value…also, they did spend close to 15m of the 30m total off-season budget on the pen.
Once again, it’s not Perry’s fault that Bundy, Heaney and Canning fell apart. Those were guys he inherited that were exposed to do a lot better. The bottom line is, the SP’s, the Pen and injuries are all responsible for a down season.
That said, I’m liking the out look of this team the next few seasons. Go Halo’s!
Halo11Fan
Padres, They can walk and chew gum at the same time. There is no quick fix for the rotation, but if you have a bullpen strategy, you can almost always have a good pen and you never have to go through a long bullpen drought.
A rotation has to be planted, sowed, marinated, prepared and slow roasted. There are no quick fixes.
A bullpen can be picked up at Ruth Chris Steakhouse. The Angels have been shopping at Der Wienerschnitzel. That strategy has to change.
Halo11Fan
Swing, it’s pointless for you to debate me because you still don’t realize you made a fool of yourself this past off season.
I was absolutely right this past off season and you are one of the few that is so clueless you still don’t realize it.
J.H.
I think the ‘19 Nationals and ‘18 Red Sox would disagree with you, just two recent examples of teams that won it all with top rotations headlined mostly by imports, and subpar bullpens.
SwingtheFNbat
One things for sure, you are right 50% of the time. Saying that this guy, and that guy is terrible. You should be accurate 50% plus, good job. Haha.. How about having a little optimism.
BTW, You’d make a good politician, fudging numbers like Cobb’s 15m Angels salary to make a point.
Halo11Fan
And the Nationals had to tear it down. Corbin is a big reason for that. Do you think the Angels should have signed Strasberg?
The 2018 Red Sox. What team are you looking at? The hero of that team was Workman. They spent a lot of money being 8th in starter ERA. But they were 9th in bullpen ERA. AND they were number one in runs scored..
Chris Sale and Price were not all that good and that big market team got slammed by those contracts.
Those two examples are not great examples.
J.H.
I would love for the Angels to ‘tear it down’ after a World Series win. The fact is, the Angels haven’t even been remotely close to the success the Nationals have had this decade, so which team would you want to emulate?
And besides, you must not have watched that ‘18 Red Sox victory; the one where KIMBREL was the closer, not Workman, and he was so bad that Sale closed out their World Series clinching victory. The same playoff run that saw their starters throw more relief innings than their relievers. Similar to the Nationals and also the ‘17 Astros. Similar to the Dodgers last year with Urias and May. So your nonexistent argument is even worse.
Halo11Fan
Padres, one last thing. The Nationals make one of the greatest free agent signings of all time and wham…five years later they win the World Series.
Those examples are weak and those are your cherry picked examples.
Those Red Sox pitchers didn’t get them there. The Red Sox offense got them there.
J.H.
The Angels have had the best player in baseball for a decade and have zero playoff wins. Again, which team would you rather emulate?
And I guess when you can revise or just flat out ignore history, those examples would be weak. If you paid attention to what actually happened, you’d see your argument doesn’t hold much water.
Halo11Fan
You changed the topic, I know why you did that.
What starting pitcher would have solved the problem? How much would that have cost. I can name 20 RPs they could have gotten for a fraction of the price of that starting pitcher and they would have made the playoffs a handful of times,
Halo11Fan
By the way, the reason the Angels didn’t win that year was because KC had a much, much, much better bullpen and Trout was completely shut down by that pen.
J.H.
I’m not changing the subject. I’m telling you that whatever the Nationals did for most of this decade worked pretty well for them. You changed the subject after you realized you were wrong about the ‘18 Red Sox, and had no rebuttal for the facts about the last 4-5 World Series champions relying mostly on starting pitching over their bullpen. If you think that the Angels having ‘one or two relievers’ would have somehow fixed the problem of trotting out starters like Harvey, Teheran, Cahill, Quintana, etc. enough to make the playoffs over the last several years, than more power to ya, bud!
J.H.
Yeah, and also Yordano Ventura, Jason Vargas, and James Shields giving up less than five runs combined over 18+ innings. But again, don’t let facts get in the way of your argument!
Halo11Fan
It was the bullpen.
Anyway, do you really believe it’s easier to solve the starting pitching situation than bullpen….. I mean really?
If you don’t believe that, then what are we talking about.
J.H.
Nice retort.
This is a fun debate. What I’m saying is, the best bullpen only goes so far in covering your starting pitching. But great starting pitching can cover a subpar bullpen. So while it may be easier to fix the bullpen, it won’t make much difference if the starting pitching stays at the same low quality it’s been for years. I’m still acknowledging that they BOTH need to be fixed, though.
Cap & Crunch
Cobb was being payed 14 of that 15 from Bal Halo cmon now!
We gotta talk in truths if we are ever top solve this problem for LAA
The Angels DO need a better starting staff next year- There is promise in Sandoval and Barria and we shall see on Bauch and Ty soon but absolutely they need more length from the starters unless somehow they generate a SD pen overnight (they won’t)
The staff and pen work together, they both need help, inking 4 nice Bp guys wont solve the whole riddle here, in fact you’d prolly just burn them all out the 1st half
Dorothy_Mantooth
The Angels bullpen failure this year is the bi-product of the starters not going deep enough in their games. Even teams with an above average bullpen will wear out their relievers if they don’t get 2-3 6IP+ starts per week. I do agree they could have done more in the pen but their true issues lie in their starting rotation and their inability to go deep into games.
Halo11Fan
I’m not up for debate. I’m not looking to win. I’m looking for an exchange of ideas.
I believe most fans understand fixing the relief pitching is easier to fix than the starting rotation.
I think all fans realize if you could have starters or relievers, you take the starters. Starters are more impactful; harder and much more expensive to maintain.
Therefore, I’m for fixing what’s easier to fix. I don’t understand why this is such a controversial take.
sciosciamediapro
But in order for you to consider a bullpen fixed what has to happen? I think the point of the debate is without a starting rotation that holds up their end no bullpen is going to look “fixed”, and then you’re gonna come on these messages boards say “perry is an idiot” and complain about spending x amount on whoever is there and aay “they could easily fix the bullpen if they just spent more on it”
Halo11Fan
Nice Strawman. No way would I have come on this board and ripped Perry had he tried to do something.
You can address the bullpen by having multiple options that are expected to be good and then having multiple guys who have potential to fill voids.
For example, no one in their right mind should have thought Buttrey and Mayers were good enough to be counted on to fill stage one positions. They fit the latter stage.
Get three or four stage one RPs. Relievers who have a history of success. Then have multiple pitchers who you can give low leverage innings until a space opens up. Preferably pitchers with options.
Guerra, Claudio and Slegers had almost no chance of being stage one pitchers. Buttrey and Mayers had no history of success so should not have been counted on as stage one pitchers.
If Perry would have gotten Yates an Rosenthal, and it didn’t work out, so be it. But to think this bullpen had any chance was pure incompetence.
sciosciamediapro
But perry did try to do something and you rip him every chance you get. It is a fact he did something. He very clearly cleaned house and brought in new guys he thought were gonna help. He was wrong, but he did try.
Halo11Fan
Perry didn’t do anything to address the 6th through 8th innings. Nothing. I said last year hope and prayer is not a feasible strategy.
How do you not see that? And that’s where I ripped Perry and he absolutely deserves it.
faithoverfear
Sounds like the Jo Adell situation, bringing him up to soon. Could make our break his future. Just saying
bkbk
Hes striking out 60% of batters he faces and doesnt walk many. This dude is goign to be an absolute monster.
Deleted User
If being called up a few months too early is enough to “break” you, I don’t think you had the mental fortitude to make it in the first place. If you crumble because at first you don’t succeed, then baseball and sky diving are not for you.
urnuts
Agree with you except for one thing, if you don’t succeed in skydiving the first time it’s your last.
dirkg
I was thinking just the opposite. The MLB trend has been to get your pitching studs up as to not waste their innings in MiLB. It’s nice to see the Angels have a stud to bring up for once. And no, bringing up Suarez a few years back does not qualify. His numbers were not like Detmers.
cookmeister 2
A writer made a pretty good point earlier I thought… the PCL isn’t a great place to continue any type of development, so doing really really well at AA and jumping to the majors isn’t too much of a stretch. Plus pitchers and hitters are wildly different
elcaballo
Pitching the PCL will do more to hurt his development then the majors on a non competitive team.
prov356
I don’t think so Faith. Adell was not ready when they promoted him and he embarrassed himself. Detmers is throwing like he’s ready.
aragon
let’s see what he’s got.
jessaumodesto
Any relation to Ty?
wakejeff
Ty’s last name doesn’t have an s
jessaumodesto
Yes it does, the “Detmer’s”
Joe It All
No but Koy is related to Ty
Murphi Kennedy
Knowing the angels they will lose his first start 1-0. Offense just won’t show up, the opponent will get a fluke run off some defensive miscue or lucky homerun
Cap & Crunch
Good for them
Angels have a different trajectory than most moving forward with the farm – They don’t want to manipulate service time they want SERVICE
With Trout Ohtani (tbd) and Rendon on the future payroll they need to get expierence from any youngster they can ledger wise let alone on the field –
These next 2 months shouldn’t be taken for granted and they still need to make good baseball decisions even if the playoffs are probably out of sight – Putting Rendon on Ice Sept 1 and getting Ohtani off the hill then qualifies as well
Arte has no choice than be all about the Now, it’s not a way to run a ballclub, you never want to pigeon hole yourself into one line of thinking (while having no escape routes) but it’s all he’s got and it’s all he know’s
Angelic Visitations
You guys are in for a treat! He was the best pitcher in college baseball, fell to the Angels at #10 because of a perceived lack of upside based on fastball velocity that sat 92. Since being drafted, that’s climbed up to 94-95, with a plus curve, plus change and plus command. He’s been one of the most dominant pitchers in minor league baseball, and that’s while pitching to hitter friendly parks. He’s going to be a solid mid rotation starter in short order.
With Detmers, Ohtani, Sandoval, Rodriguez, Suarez, and Bachman and Bush, the Angels have done elite pitching arriving right now and through the next couple years.
You combine that with an offense that will terrorize opposing teams (when Trout, Rendon and Walsh are healthy) and the Angels have a very bright future. 2022-2025, this will be one of the best teams in baseball.
Halo11Fan
I think all Angel fans are excited to see him.
Angels & NL West
The Angels are closer than people think. Recent drafts prioritized pitching that is starting to percolate up to AA and AAA. And in the past month, the Angels added 19 college arms via the draft and 5 more via trades. Look out if a couple of those new arms deliver.
Halo11Fan
If the Angels addressed their bullpen issues last off-season they would be right there. Had they done that, and had Trout and Rendon been healthy, teams would be trying to catch them.
formerlyz
When he was drafted, it was obvious he would be in the big leagues super fast. They’ve needed pitching for so long. Should be a really nice addition for them
Peart of the game
Could’ve left him in AAA longer but he should be able to stay up in the MLB as he crushed AA and did very well in a AAA start.
SwingtheFNbat
Nice, get’em Reid! I’m almost pumped for Sunday as if the NFL were on… Now, how about scoring some runs. I know the offense is banged up but jeez! There making the A’s pitching look like it’s the best thing since sliced bread.
MrAngelFan
Not having your 3, 4 , 5 hitters makes scoring runs a little more difficult. The A’s have shut them down 4 games in a row.
SwingtheFNbat
All tampering aside, the Angels should drop a text to Sherzer and say, “go ahead and get comfortable in L.A.” we’ll be in contact with you soon. 😉
Omarj
Be ready to be impressed. Let’s go!!!
billwood23
Just like every other prospect the Angels are high on and bring up- straight TRASH!!!
Halo11Fan
Anyone who has a different opinion of Detmers or Marsh then they did last week doesn’t understand a thing about baseball. For the most part, the same is true of Adell.
I remember Frank Tanana getting ripped in one of his early starts. He said “these guys are not that good.” . It takes times for many young players to realize they belong.
billwood23
There was a possibility to get Max Meyer from Miami for Marsh right? Who in their right minds wouldn’t make that trade? FO way to high on these prospects!!
Halo11Fan
Since a CF is much more of a sure thing than a pitcher, and since Marsh is a higher rated prospect, I think most GMs would.
orange2001
Agreed. With pitchers it’s never a sure thing—not that position players are either but they are safer. I have a good feeling about Brandon Marsh and think he will be a solid player (i.e., future all-star) for years to come. On the other hand, I’m always leary of pitching prospects… just look at Andrew Heaney. Or, I can look back at the Angels’ top pitching draft picks over the last two decades like Sean Newcomb, Cam Bedrosian, Tyler Kehrer, Garrett Richards, Tyler Skaggs, Patrick Corbin, Trevor Bell, Jered Weaver, Joe Saunders, Chris Bootcheck, Joe Torres, Seth Etherton and how many of these really panned out in terms of living up to the hype? I will say that from all these prospects, the only one who I felt would undoubtedly be special was Jered Weaver and I feel the same way about Reid Detmers. I don’t know too much about Max Meyer but he appears to also be the real deal. But, in my opinion, the Angels are pretty stacked up in young starting pitchers and not sure that adding another *young* starting pitcher is a high priority… at least not at the expense of Brandon Marsh.
Sealbeach Comber
Not a debut that inspires confidence.
Halo11Fan
I liked what I saw. I didn’t like the results, but I liked his stuff.
orange2001
Not sure what you expected from his MLB debut; he’s 22-years-old. He showed great poise. His stuff is legit… the A’s hitters are tough. They work the counts better than anyone and made Detmers have an early high pitch count that led to him imploding in the third. Besides that disastrous third, he looked good. Maybe Maddon should have waited and allowed Detmers to make his debut in the next series versus Texas for better results.
As an Angels fan, I’m excited about the young rotation for the first time in YEARS. Detmers, Sandoval, Canning, Barria, Suarez, and Bachman. Not to mention Ohtani. I’m intrigued by a few 2021 draft picks including Ky Bush and especially Mason Albright.