4:45pm: Urias has been placed on seven-day administrative leave, per Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times (Twitter link). That’s standard procedure as the commissioner’s office gathers facts surrounding the incident, and it’s typical for that leave to be extended in multiple seven-day increments as the investigation is ongoing. Urias will be paid while on leave, though if he is ultimately punished in the form of a suspension under the league’s domestic violence policy, that pay and any service time accrued can be rescinded.
9:33am: Dodgers pitcher Julio Urias was arrested last night, according to a report from TMZ Sports. The 22-year-old was seen “arguing with a female companion” and allegedly “shoved her to the ground.”
Though the identity of the alleged victim is not known, Urias is said to have been arrested on suspicion of “misdemeanor domestic battery.” The report suggests that the victim denied any physical altercation, but that police made the arrest based upon eyewitness accounts and video evidence.
It’s obviously disturbing to learn of these allegations. Until more is known, it would be unwise to speculate on possible legal jeopardy or MLB punishment. The league has not yet announced anything regarding this matter, but it seems possible that it will be investigated under the MLB-MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy.
kbry
Hopefully it gets figured out sooner rather than later. Someone needs to be a mentor to these young guys.
ReverieDays
Like, oh I don’t know, maybe their parents?
CrewBrew
So you need a mentor to not abuse women? im 23 and I did not need a mentor to learn this. Its basic human code.
bkbk
Chill and show empathy little bros. Coming from abusive families/situations full of trauma is a savage thing to figure out how to get past.
You are not you, you are a combination of the genetic predisposition and behaviors the people you spent the most time with growing up told you were acceptable. The worst behaviors are rare ones that only come out occasionally so you never get chance to be told they are unacceptable till its too late.
It’s still always wrong, but the simplistic take that their is some innate human code is Kindergarten logic.
CrewBrew
sounds like a cop out to me
bluewest
Maybe have some empathy for the woman he shoved. And I’m not your “lil bro,” dude.
tapnager
B fn S! PERSONAL accountability is lost!
stansfield123
Aw, poor kid. He shoved that girl to the ground on a concrete sidewalk because no one ever mentored him. And then the mean cop came and picked on him for it.
agentp
Why can’t these man babies learn to use their words and keep their hands to themselves?
Robertowannabe
“Man babies”, as you called them, have existed since the dawn of time. They come from all walks of life and not just athletes. Not even restricted to the male population either. Idiots have used physical force against other humans for years. The legal term is assault and battery. There are many different degrees to the offense. Sadly it will never be stopped. Only can be punished. Punishment should be severe.
chesteraarthur
Assault and battery are too different legal terms, actually.
purplesteve6
“Too” and “Two” are two different words.
CrewBrew
not trying to be the grammar police but people who dont know the difference between to too two and there and their irk me
BlueSkyLA
They’re you go again!
Robertowannabe
Their you go again bringing up the grammar deficiencies of two many people and there inability top differentiate between the meaning of to or more words….
Yankeedynasty
And the bullpen gets worse and worse
Baytown
Amazing that the Dodger’s FO hasn’t addressed the BP. In fact, quite the opposite dumping Tony Watson whose been doing super.
Baytown
He’s young. There’s time.
kenleyfornia2
The Dodgers bullpen is not bad because they let Watson go
snotrocket
Curious why you guys lock comments for every article about Addison Russell but not Urias?
Kwflanne
Give it time, this will be locked also once it starts to get ridiculous comments in here
Jeff Todd
As we’ve explained dozens of times before, we close comments when it becomes apparent that it is too significant a drain on our resources to monitor the discussion to keep it within our commenting policy. If that happens here, we’ll close it.
We will also have a zero tolerance policy for any vile comments or any attempt to draw political discussion into the board. (To be clear: your account will be banned.)
Monkey’s Uncle
Jeff, I extend my sympathies for the many, many more times you will have to keep answering different versions of the same question going forward.
I Believe We Can Win
For future reference, helps to leave out condescending phrases like “as weve explained dozens of times before” as if it’s the users fault theyve missed times this has been explained to others.
Idk why users asking a legit question should feel bad they weren’t there or didnt have an account when other times this has come up. That’s how you lose an audience.
Get it. Youre tired of explaining it. But if you want people to continue to use your website youre gonna have to explain stuff to new users or people who missed stuff.
Jeff Todd
Wasn’t trying to smack down anybody so much as make clear our position on the matter, while dealing with a bunch of other things I’m working on right now. But I agree. Not my intention to be condescending.
dimitrios in la
Your position on the matter seems very clear and also reasonable. However, along these lines, a reasonable conversation about domestic violence among athletes and how it should be handled is an important conversation for us to have. Perhaps it is best to place your policy clearly as a disclaimer in the article/posting itself.
Jeff Todd
That’s a good suggestion. We’ll consider coming up with some standard language that we can put in a post or in the comments.
snotrocket
Gotcha. Wasn’t aware it had been explained.
Jeff Todd
No problem. Sorry if that came across as snappy.
Deke
Ohhh man we’ve got a new nickname for ya Jeff. “Jeff (The Snapper) Todd”. Or just “Snapper” for short! Hehehe.
BlueSkyLA
Recognizing that board moderation is a time vampire and can be a no-win situation, the zero-tolerance policy isn’t always as apparent as you might hope. I report posts only when they go way over the line, and I see that these reports don’t aways result in a post deletion.
Jeff Todd
We look at all comments that are reported but they aren’t automatically deleted because they are reported. Appreciate your efforts.
astros_fan_84
I appreciate the work you guys put in to keep this a pure baseball site.
BlueSkyLA
It’s good to know that all reports are reviewed. I wouldn’t expect anything (else) to be automatic but I would have thought the last one I reported would be clearly in violation of any policy, especially if it’s zero tolerance. It was really nasty and was encouraging responses in kind. Another vote for the suggestion that the policy be made more clear.
mike156
Jeff, a serious suggestion. Why not just have a site wide policy of no comments on domestic abuse cases? Post the article with comments disabled and a note at the bottom restating the policy. In the end, virtually everyone here wants to talk about baseball.
Jeff Todd
Because the reason for closing comments on some posts isn’t that we don’t want to allow discussion of that topic, it’s that too many people have (in some cases) proven unable to do so within the bounds of our site’s commenting standards. That would probably be the easier route, though.
GoSoxGo
Are there other crimes (aside from domestic violence, sexual assault, and child abuse) for which MLB intercedes to impose a fine, suspension or ban? Does MLB’s disciplinary code distinguish between behaviors that reflect poorly on its product and behaviors that are actually criminal?
Jeff Todd
There’s also a specific policy covering drugs. Suspensions under those policies aren’t tied to the criminal code or to the action/inaction of state/federal law enforcement/prosecutors.
Otherwise, it’s the commissioner’s prerogative to act in “the best interests of baseball,” subject to challenge before an independent arbitrator (and perhaps a court thereafter).
FrankieBaby
Yeah you guys clearly are biased towards certain teams. No comments allowed for Larry Baer or Addison Russell but have a Dodger do the same thing and the comments are on. You could at least TRY to be impartial
DarkSide830
innocent until proven guilty
BlueSkyLA
If this incident does become subject to the MLB/MLBPA domestic violence policy the process won’t be anything like a trial. It’s a policy, not a law.
DarkSide830
certianly, but our resonable judgements do not need to be subject to such rules. if the person is not found guilty by a court of law, unless there was an evident miscarriage of justice, it is in the public’s best interest to believe such judgement.
BlueSkyLA
We seem to have this same discussion whenever these incidents arise. The chances this lands in a court for trial are zero to none. The likelihood that it is addressed by the internal player conduct policies of MLB is practically 100%. So I think I will go with the latter over the former.
ShieldF123
@Darkside
As someone who works in law enforcement and has first hand experience, it is VERY common for us to know 100% that a crime has occurred and either not have enough support from a prosecutor or not have enough clear and objective proof for a conviction, especially with uncooperative victims like you often find in DV cases.
Also, only egregious crimes end in a conviction until you’ve been arrested about a dozen times. He’ll get a reduction to a non-misdemeanor like everyone else.
Michael_K_Woods
Plea deals are an admission of something. And depending on what that something is, MLB acts accordingly. Also, damage done to the target of an alleged attack seems to factor into the decision by MLB.
josecanecco
If there’s actually video of this: Bye Julio
SuperSinker
Addison Russell has been abusing his wife for years and he’s still in baseball. Osuna too. It appears more likely this will go away in two weeks because people still don’t care
Bryzzo2016
Both players you mentioned served lengthy suspensions. We don’t know the facts, but this obviously doesn’t look good for Urias.
BlueSkyLA
This kind of thing never looks good either for the player or the sport, but keep in mind one of the few things we know about this one is the charge against Urias is a misdemeanor, a minor offense. If that continues to be the case then the likely legal outcome is paying a fine. The more serious outcome could well be the commissioner’s judgement under the Domestic Violence policy. Those reviews have led to many suspensions but nobody has been thrown out of the game and a lot of accusations against other players were far more serious than what we’ve heard so far about Urias.
ShieldF123
It differs state to state, but in NY a misdemeanor is still up to one year in jail or 3 years probation. I wouldn’t consider that “minor” like I would a violation which is max 14 days jail.
BlueSkyLA
I’m not a lawyer and I don’t play one on the internet, but a dictionary I can read. In the dictionary, a misdemeanor is defined as a “minor wrongdoing.” More serious than an infraction, and less serious than a criminal offense.
zachgwest
Guys all get arrested if the cops are called.
Frisco500
Too bad to see this. The kid has overcome a lot to get where he is – and the dodger organization has always treated him very well, all the way down to the cosmetic surgery.
BlueSkyLA
FWIW, the surgery on his eyelid wasn’t really cosmetic as I understand it. The eyelid couldn’t be opened more than about halfway and affected his vision.
Anyway, this story broke all of about an hour ago. With few facts known it would be wise to withhold judgement. Wait at least until MLB and the Dodgers release a statement.
DarkSide830
like any situation, lets reserve judgements until we find out exactly what happened. TMZ is very adept in jumping on any possible “story.”
BlueSkyLA
The story ran in the LA Times this morning. They didn’t cite TMZ as their source. According to the story he was released on a $20k bond after being held for about four hours (not all night per the TMZ story).
jdgoat
Hopefully this is a misunderstanding. He’s an easy guy to root for with all he’s overcome and it’d be a shame if this is true and wrecks that.
macstruts
“eyewitness accounts and video evidence”
It’s hard to believe it’s a misunderstanding.
DarkSide830
its really odd how TMZ always manages to have video evidence of even quick altercations (see Baer)
jdgoat
Can only hope I guess.
hsmitham
Definitely no need to rush to judgement. This is going to be a long process and we may not know the truth for a long time. Hope it all gets sorted out.
andrewf
To quote the article “Until more is known, it would be unwise to speculate”
halofan20
If the dodgers don’t release him for hitting a woman and another team picks him up shame on that organization and baseball. – football people
coocoo
@halofan. So what you are saying is for one mistake this guy or any person should have their career over. Nobody knows what happened before the alleged shove so how about giving the guy the courtesy of finding out the whole situation before ending his career
captainsalty
It happened at the Beverly Center and I have worked on the fire sprinkler system there. They just underwent a huge renovation but they should’ve demolished it to be honest lol
captainsalty
As far as Julio goes, it doesn’t sound like he will be prosecuted but I’m sure MLB will investigate and give him a small suspension. He’s a young guy and hopefully learns from this. I don’t understand why these guys can’t stay out of trouble and can’t seem to stop putting themselves in bad situations like being in toxic relationships or getting sauced up and getting DUI’s and into bar fights
DarkSide830
its worth waiting until all the facts are evident before we assume the intentions of anyone involved.
Wolf Hoffmann
Too early to know. But Urias may have destroyed his MLB career. Voynov did something similar and he got booted out of the country. Urias may be pitching in the Mexican League next season.
If the Dodgers lose Urias they will absolutely need to consider Kimbrel. The bullpen was already a disaster before this Urias news.
kenleyfornia2
Voynov slammed his wifes head throught a TV and beat her so bad she had bruises all over face. Thats not the same at all.
Wolf Hoffmann
Voynov pled guilty to one misdemeanor count. Urias was arrested for one misdemeanor count. That sounds like the same thing to me.
javier 3
Addison Russell and now Julio Urias. I mean I’ve seen them both in person and they aren’t friendly. That’s terrible they would do the stuff they’ve done though
macstruts
Based on reports (video and witnesses), this looks to be true, however this is not going to ruin anyone’s career. He’ll get 30 days and if it doesn’t repeat, that will be the end of it. I don’t think that’s a bad thing.
Wolf Hoffmann
I.C.E. could detain him for a deportation hearing. Just as they did with Voynov. The jeopardy of losing his career isn’t from MLB actions. It would be from I.C.E.
macstruts
Any physical damage? I don’t think so.
Pushing someone to the point of someone losing their balance for someone here legally is not going to generate an I.C.E. response.
He’ll get suspended. He deserves to get suspended. And if it doesn’t happen again, the incident will be forgotten.
BlueSkyLA
That seem highly unlikely. Voynov beat his wife severely and served a jail sentence for it. A number of resident alien ballplayers have been involved in domestic violence incidents much more serious than this one appears to be and none of them have been deported.
njbirdsfan
I’m guessing Verlander would be ok with this if this were an All Star teammate but since he’s not he’ll condemn it in the douchiest possible way.
pr0ject2501
If he hit a woman, he should be blackballed.
BaseballBrian
He will probably have charges reduced to possession of cannabis.