Zack Greinke made his first start in ten days last night in what might turn out to be his final start in a Brewers uniform. He allowed one run on three hits over seven innings against the Phillies, striking out five.
It’s looking increasingly likely that the Brewers will consider trade offers for the right-hander, who has drawn interest from the Rangers, Orioles, Braves, Angels, White Sox, Blue Jays, and Dodgers. Greinke earns a $13.5MM salary this year and will be in line for a considerably larger contract when he hits free agency a few months from now — the Brewers have already offered him a nine-figure deal. Here are today’s Greinke rumors with the most recent updates up top:
- The price tag for Greinke is extremely high, interested teams told Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. The Brewers are said to have a particular interest in a top young shortstop, and a source said they asked the Orioles about Manny Machado, a request that was rebuffed.
- The Rangers, Angels, Braves and White Sox are most interested in Greinke, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (Twitter links). The White Sox want him badly and the Nationals are on the periphery of the talks at best.
- There’s an "excellent chance" Greinke will be dealt, Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports reports. Many scouts watched his outing last night and some came away impressed. Greinke is said to admire the Angels and Braves organizations, Morosi notes.
- Nick Cafardo of The Boston Globe hears that the Red Sox will not target Greinke (Twitter link).
- Greinke will be a big focus for the Braves, who are moving on from Ryan Dempster, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports (on Twitter).
- Greinke says he enjoys playing in Milwaukee, but won't take it personally if he's traded, Todd Rosiak of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports. “I don’t really look forward to being traded from this place, but it could happen,” Greinke said.
- The Red Sox had a scout watching Greinke last night, Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com reports.
Greinke to the Braves. Make it happen Wren!
I’d trade Teheran for Greinke if he agrees to an extension (5/90MM).
He turned down 5 and over 100 million from Milwaukee why would he sign for less in Atlanta????
With the Hamels deal it’s going to be more I’m afraid.
But I agree Teheran can only be considered available for a handful of players and Grienke is one of them in my books.
He already turned down a 5yr 100 mill from the brew crew
and John Heyman might be wrong again…. Frank Wren just elluded to the deal still being on…
Why in the hell would he leave it on the table? It’s clear he doesn’t want to come to ATL.
The same time he was saying that we aren’t going to paint ourselves into a corner and that we are moving on?
The team had a deal on table that had a deadline on it for a decision from Dempster/Cubs. This deadline has passed by with nothing, the team is no longer worried about acquiring this Lowe 2.0 in the middle of a good stretch of pitching.
God I hope your right
He might be right. It’s not off the table, but highly unlikely it’ll happen according to FW. I’d say he’ll move on.
the original deal is not still on the table… FW: I said that it’s highly unlikely that we make that deal. We
had certain parameters that expired yesterday. I’m not going to get into
great detail on this, other than to say there were certain parameters
for us that expired. And the Cubs were fully aware of it and
understood.”
You know you’d love Atlanta Zack…. tell Doug Melvin to get it done!
tell the Braves to offer something good.
Delgado, Spruill, Graham, Salcedo. Maybe 1 more A / AA prospect if you throw in a little cash. Oh, and we need a window to try and extend Greinke
My guess is there’s no need for a “window,” because Zack is going to Free Agency. I’m also hoping they deal with another team, other than the Braves, because I’m not sold on getting mostly pitching back in return. They need a shortstop.
Thank you, by the way, for Alcides Escobar. We in KC would be more than happy to give you Yuni again, if you like!
… and we thank you for the postseason experience. The only place where postseason births have been less bountiful lately has been KC. And Pittsburgh…but it looks like they might finally be turning the corner… KC, on the other hand.
Yeah….Grienke is about it in KC’s pitching cupboard lately. It’ll take a miracle, or David Glass opening his wallet and not just his coin purse, to get KC into post-season (not this year but soon). But still, I had to say it, cuz Esky is just hella fun to see blossoming this year.
Dont need a SS. Simmons is our future!
No any deal would for sure have to include Teheran
If you like it here so much then sign the extension!
agreed – the more i hear him say this, the more i tend not to believe him. it’s just politics on his part, i think.
Yes Im glad were moving on cause dempster doesnt want to be a brave and I dont want him in hotlanta
Maybe these sports reporters should double check before they start making comments.. Just so we don’t have another repeat of a player being blindsided.
That said, I hope it’s true that we’re moving on from Dempster. And I hope we beat him in the playoffs.
I definitely agree that the reporters are too quick to report something. If they don’t report rumors, someone else is going to report the same rumor.
I think Dempster is going to stay in Chicago. I just don’t see him waiving his 10/5 rights.
Trade Greinke for a good prospect, then resign him in the off season.
Well, if he’s traded to Atlanta, they’re not going to do it without signing him to an extension.
Will take Teheran+ a lower lvl piece. Teheran+ high-level piece would be too much. I’m ok with dealing Teheran.
Attanasio said on the radio broadcast that the Brewers may well pursue Greinke even if he’s traded. My guess is they won’t budge much if at all from their final offer that he turned down last week but it might turn out to be very competitive.
Get it done Doug. It’s time to bring in a good prospect haul.
If the Dodgers get Dempster and Hanley then the Braves better man up and get Grienke. The Dodgers already have an advantage of an easy schedule (the difference in the interleague schedule between the Dodgers and Braves is a joke.) yet the Braves are still ahead of them.
I could see Greinke fitting well in Atlanta. Boston… not so much. I just don’t feel like he’s an AL East pitcher.
Boston no. He’d have a meltdown I think. Atlanta would welcome him 😀
ATL wouldn’t be much different. If he gets traded there and bombs his first couple starts then what?
That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.
Boston and Atlanta both lost huge Wild Card leads during the last month of the season in 2011, and both ended up missing the playoffs.
Only one of those teams was destroyed by the media, and only one of them ended up firing their manager. Can you guess which one? Hint: It wasn’t the Braves.
Greinke would be nuts to go to a place like Boston or New York, where his every move would be scrutinized to no end. The other three AL East teams should tread cautiously around Greinke as well, considering how often he’d have to pitch in Boston/New York. Milwaukee is actually the perfect place for a guy with a social anxiety disorder. But if Greinke doesn’t stick with the Brewers, he could easily fit in a lower-pressure environment like Atlanta, St. Louis or maybe Texas.
Texas is far from low pressure. Two WS appearences in as many years. Whoever they get it expected to deliver.
Not an AL East pitcher? Probably true for every AL East team except perhaps the Rays.
Zack Lee + for Greinke?
After last nights game, it shouldn’t be too hard to get a good deal for Greinke. The bullpen, on the other hand, made all of themselves impossible to move…
Hey Brave fans. What prospects are you guys hearing might get moved for Zach?
Our wonderful beat writers think that Teheran and another top 15 prospect would have to go. But then again they are the same guys that said the Dempster deal was official…and that Chipper said he seriously doesn’t know if he’ll make it through spring training…and that Griffey had chosen the Braves…and that Furcal had chosen the Braves. Get the picture?
How would another top 15 prospect be dealt. Teheran is the Braves only one? Sure that’s not 50. If your trading Teheran and Delgado, cubs will take that for Garza who has another year of control.
LOL at Teheran AND Delgado for Matt Garza. He isn’t even that good. The Cubs will keep him if that is the asking price.
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Wow you guys don’t get sarcasm. Although I def. think the Brave would do a Delgado Garza deal I do know we wouldnt get Teheren. Look at the comment I am responding to. No way Teheren goes for a renta player in Greinke yet alone another top 15 prospect you don’t have. And yes I think you’d be better off with Garza over Greinke due to Garza’s extra year of control and supp draft pick eligibility.
David D and 14Rocks- Wow you guys don’t get sarcasm. Although I def. think the Brave would do a Delgado Garza deal I do know we wouldnt get Teheren. Look at the comment I am responding to. No way Teheren goes for a renta player in Greinke yet alone another top 15 prospect you don’t have. And yes I think you’d be better off with Garza over Greinke due to Garza’s extra year of control and supp draft pick eligibility.
I bet the Cubs would, but I wouldn’t trade either of them for Garza. Delgado is a 22 year old rookie this year, and his FIP is 4.12 as to where Garza has posted a 4.13. Garza has a 1.3 WAR, while Delgado is at 0.9 WAR. Garza makes about $9 million more to be no better than Delgado
Read the Capital Avenue Club site, not the local beat writers. Dave O’Brien acts like he is paid by the Braves, not the AJC. The CAC has the best and most up-to-date information all day yesterday.
Capitol Avenue Club said the Brewers are sticking hard to their demands that a deal center on Teheran plus another major and minor prospect (speculating they’re looking for something along the lines of Teheran, Delgado, and an offensive piece like Salcedo). If they stick to demands like that for a rental, there’s no way he get’s traded.
I still think that if we’re using history to base things on, it won’t be any of the guys talked about. When’s the last time Wren signed/traded for someone who’s been linked to the Braves for so long? I’m thinking it’s going to be someone completely different, like usual. How about Ricky Romero?
Agreed… FW has a knack for keeping the real trade under wraps and then it comes out of nowhere for someone that wasn’t even being mentioned as available. And with the comments yesterday about the influx of calls he received when the Dempster thing was falling through and people realized we were willing to part with Delgado, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it happens again. I just hope he sticks to his guns about only trading for a top of the rotation guy (which I don’t think Dempster is, and am glad it fell through, but his career year is making people think otherwise), and if they’re going to put a package of prospects together, that it’s for someone that would be under control beyond this year.
Greinke could be the Braves ace for years to come which is why Wren is more than happy to pay what it takes to get him. Chipper’s salary goes off the books next year, and it is possible that Hudson’s effectiveness could go down relatively soon given that he is 37 years old. Not that he is washed up or will be but he may not be considered an “ace” in the next few years. The Braves need to plan. They really need someone to anchor the rotation since at the moment there isn’t anyone ready to step up possibly even next year or the year after that. Teheran just hasn’t given any indications that he is ready to even join the major league club. Have you seen his stats lately? Delgado and Minor aren’t even #4s, Hanson hasn’t shown any signs of improving (at least not yet) and Beachy hasn’t even had a full major league season under his belt–besides he won’t be ready until next July/August. So why not make a huge push for Greinke? Makes perfect sense to me.
makes sense if it’s contingent on signing an extension… does not make sense giving up multiple prospects if he can walk at the end of the year.
Edited to add: AND, Delgado’s floor is as a #3… sure he’s experiencing some growing pains right now (he’s 22 and in his first year in the bigs), and I wouldn’t want to have to rely on him in a playoff start this year, but the flashes of brilliance he’s shown, while getting little run support, do not cause me any worry about his future as a SP.
The consensus is that Delgado is a 3-4. At least that’s what I’ve gathered from just about every prospect “expert” of significance through the Dempster situation.
I think julios stats are that way because he proved last year is primary stuff is where it needs to be. I think they want him working on his secondary pitches. No better place to do that than in the minors. But im with u on zack. Hope the braves can get him without giving up teheran
And hanson really has me worried. Cant pitch deep and his fastball is not what it use to be. Im ok with taking some off to go deeper but it starts in the low 90s and drops in the 88 range. Then its batting practice for opposing teams
I’m thinking Delgado,pastornicky and another ARM for Greinke.
The rangers and angels might price the braves out of it. both need him and at the same time need to keep him from each other. Would love for that package to get zack just dont know if it will. Maybe delgado,pastornicky and another ss with higher upside but further away prospect
Replace Delgado with Teheran and it might work.
Delgado, Gilmartin, Pastornicky and Terdoslavich?
I like the idea of Boston trading for him, but my concerns are: is he a rental and what would they give up?
Teheran and Delgado for Greinke. Make it happen Doug Melvin!
Greinke and JJ to Texas??? Why not?
Come to the Halos no stress you could be the #4!!!
The White Sox? That’s hilarious.
the other part of this is the Sox are trying to trade Floyd for prospects. I heard possibly to Toronto for some young pitching. Those prospects + whatever the Sox have to offer to the Brewers for Greike, Peavy, Sale and Greike would be a great playoff 3 if the Sox get there.
Brewers are looking for an MLB ready pitching prospect and a high level prospect. Sox just dont have enough especially with the likes of Texas and Atlanta wanting Greinke bad as well
What’s so hilarious about it? Kenny Williams is one of the most craftiest & gutsy GMs out there. I wouldn’t bet against him making a move. Sure they might not have much in the farm, but that perspective is a bit short-sided. What they do have is cost-controlled talent.
Regardless, this could all be diversion and the White Sox are really after somebody else.
So what? The White Sox aren’t offering Sale and other than him no one can start a package for Greinke in the white sox whole organization
Alexi Ramirez and Molina or Castro. Could get the deal done.
White Sox pried Peavy away from the Padres 3 years ago. It can be done.
They also had valuable, young assets then. Specifically Poreda. Not to mention, Peavy’s value was a lot less than Greinke’s now.
Remember how poreda isn’t even in AAA any more
Did I say it was a bad trade?
would the brewers take tommy hanson, randall delgado, edward salcedo, and christhian bethancourt for greinke?
I would not think the Braves would be willing to give that much up…. They are wanting to pair Greinke with Hanson, Hudson, Jurrjens, and Sheets…. Just dont think they would deal Hansen at the risk of what could be just a rental. Plus i am not to sure that i wouldnt want Hansen over Greinke anyways. Greinke would be a slight improvement from a numbers standpoint, but Hansen provides a low cost alternative given his servce time. And might I add that cost difference could be spent to improve other aspects of the team.
I really hope Jurrjens isn’t in the cards for the playoff run. Really hoping they can land Greinke but keep one of Delgado or Teheran for the long haul.
Greinke-Hudson-Sheets-Delgado/Teheran/Minor for the playoffs would make me excited.
Greinke, Hudson, Hansen (you forgot him), and Sheets would be the 1-4 starters if the trade took place. No telling who would be the 5th starter would be at this point (given the speculation and player performances). But come playoff time, that 5th starter would work out of the pen anyways…
Minor is the 5th start. He’ll be in the bullpen come October (if we make it).
Yea no. Jurrjens is all but done in Atlanta.
Jurrjens sure is puzzling. 4 pretty solid outings followed by two explosions (SF & WASH). But hey, I see that he is being skipped this turn…..
Who is this Hansen you speak of?
Tommy…..
The White Sox may “want him badly”, but they don’t have the players to pull it off.
Nestor Molina or Simon Castor+Jordan Danks or Jarred Mitchell+Eduardo Escobar.
There are too many team that could/would out bid those two proposals.
TEX, LAA, BALT, ATL, TOR, WASH, STL, and DET (2 sleeper) to name a few.
Do the White Sox actually have anything of value in their farm system to get Greinke?
No not nearly enough to get Greinke
my thoughts exactly, their best “prospect” was Addison Reed.
The Sox are dangling Floyd for young pitching prospects. I heard Toronto is interested. Those prospects+whatever the Sox have to offer would be flipped for Greike. Sale, Peavy and Greike could get it done in the playoffs if we get there,
So the White Sox are going to trade Floyd, the epitome of a mediocre pitcher, and then use that return to trade for Greinke, a true ace in every sense of the word.
How does that make any sense…?
The Nationals should trade for Greinke. Rendon and Myers would get it done. They need to replace Strasburg for the postseason, but have the money to resign Greinke. They can offer him a long-term destination to win, but also, he doesn’t have the pressure of being “the guy”. He would join a rotation next season with Strasburg, Gio, and Jordan Zimmerman. If they let Edwin Jackson walk after this season (which they should as he’s a Scott Boras client coming off of a career year), they replace him with a better slightly more expensive option in Greinke.
I know both Rendon and Myers is a steep price, but the Nats don’t have a position for Rendon until 2014 and if they fail this year because they shut down Strasburg for nothing, or if Strasburg gets injured anyway next season and they can’t win in 2013 either, it’s not worth having Rendon for 2014, when a position finally might open up for him. Morse will likely go to 1b next season (his contract year) and keep Lombardozzi in LF or they will keep LaRoche there with Morse in LF. Espinosa and Desmond are above average middle IFs and Zimmerman signed long-term.
or he could go to the Angels with even less pressure?
The Nationals are actually talking about doing a trade for Zach.mI can see it now Nationals talk about giving up some of there best prospects and the Braves bite and give up more than they should for Zach. hopefully the talks between Mil and the Nationals does not create any steam.
The Nats should grab him only if he agrees to an extension, others they should just stand pat
I would have no problem dealing Delgado and other high end prospect that’s not Teheran, Bethancourt, or Vizcaino. I would gladly give the Brewers the folowing players. Randall Delgado, Zeke Spruill, and Joe Terdoslavich, and or Nick Ahmed. For Greinke.
Bethancourt is so overrated I wouldn’t have a problem at all if he were part of a Greinke trade. I would probably be happier to see them trade Teheran than Delgado too.
Teheran would for sure have to be included for Greinke
Frank Wren is GM of year if he comes out of the deadline with Greinke and Teheran
Some team is going to get hosed in a deal for Greinke. I just hope its an AL team.
Greinke to Arizona for Tyler Skaggs, Patrick Corbin, and Chris Young,
Well, they can forget getting Profar too. Maybe JD would be willing to give up Andrus for Greinke if Profar were ready to start at SS for the Rangers.
greinke is coming to the halos had that gut feeling bout cj and it was right
“The price tag for Greinke is extremely high”
and thus Greinke stays in Milwaukee for the rest of the year.
Looking at need, farm systems, current interest, and money for an extension, i would say the rangers and braves are the favorites. I think it will come down to which of those two teams is willing to deal it’s top prospects (teheran, delgado and profar, olt). My gut says atlanta is more willing to trade theirs than texas is so that would be my guess. But if texas wants him bad enough…you never know what can happen. And mystery teams always make it interesting!
Brewers will get one B+ prospect and 1 B prospect at most. Teams are not going to deal their top 2-3 prospects for a rental w/o compensation especially one who folds under pressure like Greinke.
alexi ramirez for greinke, it weakens the sox but they could slot escobar into SS and call up saladino from AA to fill that back up infielder, he has a great OPB and has great power for a SS,…honestly its had to give up alexi but the Brewers need a SS for now and the future and this deal fixes that, Alexi is a great defensive SS, he may be a slow starter but his bat is coming along and is a very good hitter, also he is under contract at a team friendly rate.
even better what about Alexi+santiago+simon castro OR…Alexi-Floyd-Castrofor Greinke and Krod…The second deal gives the brew crew a solid starter for the rest of the season and a guy with a team option for next year, It helps both teams…the Brews get an all star gold glove clutch(I know you cant measure it with anything other than the eye test) SS whos locked up at a good rate, a good young high upside left handed reliever, and a potential front line starter,
the sox get another Ace (hopefully with an extension)to line up in front of Sale and a potential rotation of Greinke-Sale-Peavy-Quintana-Floyd(if not involved in trade) Humber and when danks comes back Greinke-Sale-Peavy-Danks-Quintana…
How would YOU like to be the GM who deal 2-3 top prospects away for a chance at signing a guy who just turned down a $100mil+ contract? That’s just nuts.
Dodgers should swoop in and get him too. All your stars are belong to us. >:)
Greinke wants to bat.. he will not go to an AL team. Hopefully he will be hitting bombs in Atlanta every 5th game for many years to come.