The Nationals have traded middle infielder Danny Espinosa to the Angels for minor league right-handers Austin Adams and Kyle McGowin, per an announcement from Washington.
[RELATED: Updated Nationals & Angels Depth Charts]
The Nats’ decision to move on from Espinosa came shortly after Jorge Castillo of the Washington Post reported the 29-year-old’s displeasure with the club’s acquisition of outfielder Adam Eaton. In trading a haul to the White Sox for Eaton, the Nationals picked up a player who should be their long-term answer in center field, thereby sending Trea Turner to shortstop. With Daniel Murphy entrenched at second base, Espinosa would have had to take on a bench role in 2017 had Washington kept him.
Now on his way out of D.C., Espinosa will head back to his native California and join an Angels team that, prior to Saturday, was in dire need of a second baseman to pair with shortstop Andrelton Simmons. Before settling on Espinosa, the Angels made recent inquiries to the Padres, Cardinals and Phillies about their second base options. Espinosa will also reunite with a former teammate in third baseman Yunel Escobar, whom the Nationals traded to the Angels exactly one year ago.
A lifetime .226/.302/.388 hitter in 2,972 plate appearances, Espinosa is fresh off a season in which he slashed .209/.306/.378 with a career-best 24 home runs in 601 PAs. The majority of the switch-hitting Espinosa’s offensive success has come versus left-handed pitchers, against whom he has posted a .257/.327/.454 career line in 736 trips to the plate. But he has provided most of his value via the field, having amassed 25 Defensive Runs Saved and an Ultimate Zone Rating of 27.0 in 4,400-plus innings as a second baseman. With Espinosa and Simmons, one of the majors’ foremost defenders, the Angels should have an enviable double-play combination for at least next season. Espinosa will make an estimated $5.3MM through arbitration in 2017, his final year under team control.
Of the two pitchers the Halos sent to the Nationals, McGowin is the more notable. The 25-year-old ranked as the Angels’ 20th-best prospect, per MLBpipeline.com, which credits the 2013 fifth-round pick for his three-pitch mix and suggests that he has back-end starter upside. The 25-year-old hasn’t generated great results during his minor league career, though, and just finished a season in which he recorded a 6.11 ERA, 7.58 K/9 and 3.58 BB/9 over 116 1/3 innings in his first taste of Triple-A action.
Adams, also 25 (and not to be confused with the Indians righty), was impressive in relief for the Angels’ Double-A affiliate in Arkansas in 2016. Although he issued too many walks (5.28 per nine), the 2012 eighth-round pick offset that somewhat with a sky-high K/9 (13.28). All told, he registered a 3.05 ERA across 41 1/3 frames. In assessing Adams in 2015, former FanGraphs prospect analyst Kiley McDaniel complimented his above-average fastball and plus slider, though he also noted Adams’ lack of control.
Josh Norris of Baseball America was the first to report the trade and the two-prospect return (Twitter links). Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
jmacss29
Boom!
LaFlamaBlanca
let the homer comments start to roll in lo, stick to baseball tonight dummies haha. why come on here and talk smack if you really think hes awful lol. The Angels now have the best up the middle defense in all of baseball. Billy Eppler has been doing a great job of filling in some holes without breaking the bank or giving up draft picks. Maybin in left and now espinosa at 2b AWESOME! Now lets go get Hammel, revere, and a few bullpen pieces and this team is ready to compete. Nothing flashy but it’ll get the job done,
redsfan48
The Miami Marlins probably still have the best up the middle defense in baseball with Hechavarria and Gordon. Reds’ Phillips and Cozart also close, although Phillips has declined some.
Kayrall
Russell & Baez
liamsfg
No way. Crawford and Panik!! Gold glove duo. That ones obvious.
wiggysf
Giants
justinept
There are clearly a lot of good ones. But given that Russell is among the top defensive short stops … and Baez is by far the best defensive 2B, is give it to them. Seriously guys – Baez finished third in DRS last year, one behind the league leader. He did it in 700 less innings. It was absurd.
pukelit
You right
baseball0021
Baez is not “by far the best defensive 2B”. I know he played more innings but Pedroia put up better DRS and UZR figured
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Russell and Baez are better in every way. The Marlins probably wouldn’t be in the top 10
steelerbravenation
Ok but what everybody is forgetting is it wouldn’t take much defensively on the 2nd base side due to how good Simmons is. You take how good Baez is over everybody else and then times it by 1000 and then you got Simmons defensive ranking at his position. That guy is the best defensive player at any position I ever saw.
stymeedone
Kinsler and Iglesias. Lots of talent up the middle currently.
justinept
He had 1 more DRS … and played 700 more innings at the position.
justinept
and by 700… I mean 900.
Baez finished 3rd in DRS at 2B and didn’t even qualify for the board. It took him 383 innings to achieve an 11 DRS. Kindler and Pedroia were at 12 in 299 and 1292 innings respectively.
Baez was on a pace for a 37 DRS over the same number of innings.
GarryHarris
Lets see what the Tigers do for CF before we determine if they compete with the best up the middle defense.
liamsfg
Do you speak English?
JFactor
Miami has the best defensive middle infield
sanfranb27
With all due respect, I think the Giants have the best up the middle defense with Posey, Crawford and Panik all winning gold gloves.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Panik is okay but he doesn’t have the glove like Javier Beaz. Don’t forget Baez played 2nd 3rd SS and first. If he played 2nd all year he would have won the gold glove. Russell has better range and is all-around better than Crawford.
1e828d29
It’s Russell and Baez on one of the greatest defensive teams of all time. Crawford has less range than Derek jeter. The Giants tandem is laughable.
Frank Richard
Baez and Russell are the best defensive middle infield in baseball. Baez may be the best infielder in baseball at 3 different positions. The Giants are second because Panik and Crawford are a solid tandem. Simmons is a great defensive SS and Espinoza is a solid 2B but their combo isn’t better than the Cubs or Giants.
Joseph Anderson
@hdy please share why you think it’s the best up the middle defense. Espinosa is middle of the pack at best going over to 2B. Tied for 3rd in most errors by a SS this past year. That’s not a good thing, ya know. He has a slight, very slight edge over Giavoltella with his bat but that’s about it. Have fun with a sub-par 2B you think is one of the best in the league hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
LAforreal
boom is right
esChubert25
Correa and Altuve
justinept
Hitting wise, for sure.
Hålosfån14
As an angel fan, I like this
888sports
Enjoy his career .226 batting avg, I’m sure it will take the Angels to a World Series lol
gmflores27
It’s a buy low move
jlv3gem
A buy low move? Danny Espinosa is Danny Espinosa. If he was valuable we wouldn’t be having this conversation. He’s a bum. Let’s be real. If I were an Angels fan I would be pissed off. Jerry DipshitPoto really put some handcuffs on this team while he was up in that front office
redsfan48
It’s definitely a buy-low move. If he hits .240/.311/.409 like he did in 2015, with power and good defense, it’s very reasonable to imagine the Angels trading him at the deadline for more than they gave up. Solid gamble in my opinion, and worst case, he’s a 1-year stopgap to fill a hole.
JosephCC87
I agree!
24TheKid
He’s also the one that got them the best player in baseball, and was forced to sign 2 overpriced old free agents.
rct222
Good luck
markmc1235
I agree as well. It’s not like they have a ton of options. Nothing wrong with this move at all. At minimum he provides strong defense and some pop.
JT19
You mean Arte Moreno who basically forced Dipoto to sign Hamilton and Pujols? Those types of deals are the types of deals that the owner has to approve of (and usually has a hand in when it comes to offering it).
GrandSlammy
Wow you really follow baseball closely huh? How about educating yourself? Dipoto with the angels?
stymeedone
A bum who’s been the starting SS for the Nationals for how many years?
jakem59
He was the Nationals starting Shortstop for 1 year. Great argument.
hittingnull
More like the previous GM before Dipoto gutted the farm. Arte Moreno then couldn’t let his GM do his job and signed Pujols and Hamilton. Afterwards, Billy Eppler traded the rebuilt farm that Dipoto did for Simmons. Now, the Angels have no farm while so many holes that Moreno and Eppler created instead of resolving. Dipoto made some mistakes, but not as huge as the owner and the new GM created.
angelnut705
No that was Reagins. He was GM when Trout was drafted. Dipoto was just GM when Trout forced himself onto the field. No credit whatsoever goes to him
angelnut705
It’s laughable that you think Eppler is to blame for this. This is all on Arte. He negotiated the signings of Pujols and Hamilton. He let Dipoto mortgage the Angels future in trades for Haren and Greinke. Eppler is simply rebuilding what Arte and Jerry destroyed.
upstream02
Dipoto gutted the farm system when he traded for Zack Greinke and Ernesto Frieri. Eppler at least got a long term solution with Simmons playing shortstop with 5 years of control versus a rental who left and a closer who ended up being awful. Dipoto also had some great moves like the Trumbo deal, but signing the entire offseason going into the 2013 season was absolutely terrible by him.
dmacbball
I agree on the two big contracts with DiPoto (and Moreno), but Tony Reagins drafted Trout. Reagins 2007-2011 / DiPoto 2011-2015.
C. A. Hevia
Please.. Dipoto had nothing to do with Trout — he was already in the system prior to JD coming on board, So was every other Angels players worth mentioning during his time in Anaheim. JD get’s a free pass BC or Moreno’s apparent meddling and Angel fans hate for Mike Scioscia, but he was anything but a good GM.
gmflores27
Plus he had 24 homers this season
HaloShane
24 HR…. Like 20 of them came in one month.
NineChampionsips
And he hit .209 while striking out 174 times!
bradthebluefish
It’s all about the WAR, which he has a 1.7 WAR last year.
RockHard
Built almost solely off of defense.. come may all you angels fans will be calling for head
RockHard
Haha, his*
jlv3gem
It’s really not all about the wAR. There are too any variables in this game to take that seriously. Not to mention that pretty much every sources’ version of it is different. It’s not a statistic. Championship teams were built and Hall Of Fame Players were bred before any of these ridiculous sabermetric, fake statistics. It’s all about OBP, a ‘lil bit of SLUG and Fielding %. WAR/ Range Factor and exit velocity can disappear for all I care. It’s nonsense to try and use some sort of unnecessarily complicated equation to evaluate a player’s value or productivity. It’s much more simple than that.
ssimplisticness
Thank you, jlv3gem gets it. WAR is a lazy, overvalued statistic.
ryanw-2
I’ve found that WAR clashes with Runs Created and Batted Runs. I added Cameron Maybin’s 2016 RC after the Angels acquired him, and on paper their pythagorean W-L suddenly became 86-76…
pukelit
Ha “calling for head” and your name is rock hard
chesteraarthur
this post is hilarious. Anyone who says fielding % is awesome and range factor can go away should just stick to watching something like the nba.
Just because you choose not to understand and use things, doesn’t mean they’re unnecessary.
davidcoonce74
Fielding % really? Who has the highest single-season fielding % at 3B. I’ll save you from looking it up. It’s HOF defender Brooks Robinson. Okay I’m joking. It’s actually Kevin Kouzmanoff. A guy who was a terrible defender.
Lord30
I’ve called for head too.
ryanw-2
Thank god for advanced analytics so we can weed out the weak minds. 😛
steelerbravenation
Any stat that says Lou Whitaker over the course of his career was a better player or more valuable player I should say over Derek Jeter proved how stupid of a stat it is. And I despise the Yankees.
ThatGuy 2
Who?
davidcoonce74
Lou was an elite defender; Jeter wasn’t. Especially at the end, Jeter was costing his team runs in the field. Whitaker played in a much more difficult era for offense, in a much more difficult park. This is why WAR is more useful than comparing raw stats. Different eras and different ballparks all figure in. It would be absurd to compare the stats of a guy who played in the 2000s with one who played in the 80s.
stymeedone
Lou should be in the HOF, but Tiger Stadium was not a difficult park. The overhang in RF was made for his swing.
davidcoonce74
The park factor for Tiger Stadium in the 80s was slightly more difficult than the park factor for Yankee Stadium in the 2000s. Plus, it was just a very different offensive environment in general. Lou and Trammel should be HOFers, for sure, and obviously Jeter will be and should be, but it’s not impossible to make a case that Whitaker was the better player.
ssimplisticness
WAR has it’s place in the world, but it should not be relied upon as a definitive talent evaluator. It’s a flawed statistic.
It’s admirable in what it attempts to accomplish but should only be used for very basic comparisons and be taken with a grain of salt. People tend to regard this “statistic” as an exact science, which it certainly is not. It’s vague and imprecise.
The majority of people don’t understand how it’s calculated, yet accept it as a truth.
Come to your own conclusions, based on observation and research, as opposed to lazily accepting these adjusted statistics.
halos101
well enjoy his defense and pop. i’m very happy with this considering i was expected stephen drew
drazthegr8 2
As a Nats fan, I love it. Danny has a ton of talent, but a two cent head. He thinks he’s an all star and swings for the fences EVERY swing. He sulks on the bench and thinks he is the best shortstop in the league. He won’t play second base without griping (even though he is a fine fielder at second). Good luck with his personality – I bet the Angels drop him by August.
LAforreal
chase u. would have been better
LAforreal
chase is a better fit
Arodsneedle
That escalated quickly
bronxbombers
Well that escalated quickly
JDSchneck
That’s the Nationals for ya. Plus, I don’t get why Espinoza couldn’t be used at 3rd a little bit more and also look to get Rendón some time at 1B. Zimmerman has a knack for getting injured.
drazthegr8 2
Huh? First of all, Rendon is a fantastic fielder. Second, Danny sulks if he isn’t playing shortstop. Dude is a head case and would rather K than adjust his long swing.
natsgm
He also thinks he is a switch hitter!
fbf923
That was quick.
Trump4TheWin
What a great trade! Who’d we get?
realgone2
Nothing you want
kidaplus
Herpes. You got herpes.
dag
Lol
CursedRangers
The gift that keeps on giving
chesteraarthur
“Don’t give kyle aids”
falconsball1993
Why? Angels are just a dumpster fire
gmflores27
Plays good defense, cheap, and has some success this year. What could go wrong?
falconsball1993
Bc the angels have no chance to compete. There’s literally no point for them to acquire any veterans at this point.
MB923
Do you oppose all sub par clubs signing or trading for veterans?
The Oregonian
Well they don’t have good prospects to play at the ML level so they just need cheap vets to take up AB’s.
ryanw-2
Based on what evaluation?
brushbackmlb
I 100% agree! Surprised to see it take so long for this point to pop up. We know the Angels system isn’t particularly strong and the team has a long way to go. Why make a trade that further diminishes the system (even if they aren’t top prospects)? I’m sure you can find a league average stop gap in free agency on a one year deal. Also, great defense up the middle is nice, but first they need a pitching staff. 2B/SS can’t catch home runs. Lastly, let’s not forget that DS is coming to a tougher league and a division with some big parks. No 20+ HRs this year for him!
Joseph Anderson
That’s not a good trade if they want veteran leadership. He’s a dime a dozen player at best. Doesn’t add much value to that team other than experience. Leadership wise, well, don’t expect him to rally the troops…
LaFlamaBlanca
Hello homer @ falconsball1993. You sound like an airhead, what are your evaluations based on genius,. You do realize that the only “old vet” on the team are Pujols and Street. You sound like a total imbecil. You know absolutely nothing about the Angels franchise other than Mike Trout yet you talk like you’ve folled the team for years. Typical homer.
rizdakc99
You should probably learn how to spell “imbecil” before insulting someone.
liamsfg
Anyone who uses the term “homer” sounds like a middle schooler. Grow up and present an argument in a mature manner. You could do it in a way that makes you sound like an adult.
Maybe then people will care what you have to say.
ThatGuy 2
Clown comment, bro.
chuckymorris
Wasn’t happy with nationals because he can’t play everyday, now he can play every day on a rebuilding team LOL
chuckymorris
actually they’re not really rebuilding they’re just bad
mannyl101
As an Angel, I’m outraged! But the truth hurts! Lol
angels fan 3
Knew it
em650r
Post before said Danny was unhappy.
gmflores27
Saw this happening to be honest… but let’s go halos!!!
gmflores27
And for who?
bluecard
I thought the angels wanted to win?
gmflores27
They have no resources to trade and no FO 2bs
Matt Galvin
Houston Street? Nick Smith? Mike Morin? Cam Bedrosian? Schomaker?
gmflores27
Street have negative value ATM
angels fan 3
Bedrosian and shoemaker are a definite no
gmflores27
Yea give Bedrock another good season and sell high on the reliever market
HaloShane
Angels organization could not careless about winning. They don’t have a winner on this team.
Halo27
So Trout is a loser? Hmmm
HaloShane
Yep! He is part of the team. Hmmm
Jake Tillinghast
Your an idiot
Joseph Anderson
Spell “you’re” correctly if YOU’RE going to call someone an idiot……hmmmmm lol herp derp!!!
baseball0021
Trout? Simmons? I guess Pujols and his WS rings don’t count?
xkeiserx24
Solid move more protection for trout
sngehl01
Lol. Sarcasm. Nice.
BaltimOrioles2016
That’s what he gets for whining about his playing time when he hits like .200, I mean I’ve got nothing against him, I just think it wasn’t his best decision to complain. Now he can compete with Andrelton Simmons for SS.
gmflores27
He’s playing second
The Oregonian
Simmons is the SS, Espinosa at 2B and Escobar at 3B.
AngelsBaseball1313
I’m so excited for a .209 hitter!!!
gmflores27
Great defense to pair with Simmons though
RockHard
Lol. So you can lose 4-2 instead of 6-2.. yay defense!
gmflores27
He also hit 24 homers last year
Phillies2017
This is a great comment
ThatGuy 2
Or you win 2-0
RockHard
Best defense in the world can’t prevent the the long ball from their crappy pitchers..
Joseph Anderson
It’s basically Giavotella with a better chance of a home run. But then Danny also likes to strike out a ton so he better up his HR’s to around 40 if he wants to be considered valuable…..
Hålosfån14
Defense wins games
RockHard
Uh, last time I checked the team with the most runs wins
reflect
Well since those 9 Bautistas all have to bat and he’s been worth like 10 fWAR over the last 3 years I’d say that works out to be one of the most valuable teams in baseball.
RockHard
Me and every GM in the game will gladly take 9 bautista’s over 9 espinosa’s!
puigpower
Interesting. I’d love to see a game like that.
MySoxAreRed
reddit.com/r/OOTP/comments/5hn24k/ootp_clone_wars_…
bravos4evr
yeah, but 9 bautistas wouldn’t each be 3 WAR players as they’d be replacement level (or worse) at C,SS,2b, 3b and CF. Maybe a 3 win player in left and right, and 2 WAR at DH so what? team WAR of 8-10? that’s awful
chesteraarthur
Right? I think team espinosa wins because i trust them more to pitch than i do team bautista
ThatGuy 2
Why was Chris Carter non tendered?
reflect
Only when it comes with offense.
HaloShane
But does not score runs…. Weak team.
Billings 2
This just in…Espinoza was traded for Trout. Not the player, but 200 pounds of actual trout.
gmflores27
Lol
BorgDevil
1
realgone2
Well damn. Angelsfan was right.
greenjoel
Where are the Angels going to get two prospects?
gmflores27
Probably organizational filler somewhere in A or AA
RockHard
Hahaha!!
Thronson5
They are going to play him at 2nd I’m assuming? They will have some really good defense in the infield between SS and 2nd that’s for sure but not much hitting between the two I don’t think. Still a good trade for the Angels even without knowing who they gave up. They needed to make a move like this. I thought they grab Utley or trade for Solarte.
csamson11
He’ll be batting around 6-8 most of the time I would imagine.
gmflores27
Glad to have a good FO btw, the worst in the game will continue to be SD, Cinnicinatti, and Miami for the foreseeable future
RockHard
Haha, says the fan of the team with by far the worst system in baseball!
gmflores27
What’s your team rock?
RockHard
Al west division champs
bkbkbk
Remember when you guys won those two world series Rock?
stymeedone
So it changes depending on who wins the division? Front runner!
RockHard
Haha
chamerhammer
The reason the Angels are in the position they are as an organization is the fault of prior player and development, gm, the owner and the albatross contract of Josh Hamilton and to a lesser degree CJ Wilson. Eppler is doing a solid job with what he has to work with. This deal makes a
lot of sense for what they need. They get a very good defender with some pop for low level prospects, keeping the better assets to play or use for later.
chesteraarthur
I don’t really blame the former gm. it seems like Moreno has his hands in a lot of the baseball side of business.
reflect
SD has a great FO what are you even on? They turned the farm and roster around without even tanking. Name another team that can do that?
And I’m not even a SD fan, or even a west coast fan.
marinest21 2
The Padres may have improved the farm, but it’s not accurate to say a) they turned their MLB roster around as well and 2) did so without tanking. They were one of the worst teams in baseball last year, and are likely to repeat that futility in 2017. Given the current status of the starting rotation – especially with non-tendering Ross – it’s gonna be a looong season.
In fact, 2016 is likely year one of a 2-3 year full rebuild. I think removing Mike Dee – who refused to admit the team needed to do so – solidified that approach.
kaido24
well that didn’t take long.
reflect
Lmao I just said in the other article that he should be happy he’s not on the Angels.
Oops.
RockHard
Haha, I think you owe Danny Espinosa an apology!
angels fan 3
Just saw he’s from Santa Ana
bonquisha
I think he went to mater dei
One of my fav players since I’m from Santa Ana as well.
gmflores27
Esperanza is better
ryanw-2
Was better. Much of their athletics migrated to Yorba Linda High School. Luckily I went to Esperanza during their glory years of baseball and football in the 1990’s.
gmflores27
I go there ATM
gmflores27
Baseball there is good football is awful
fettichico shiznilty
I went to middle school in placentia with a “bonquisha”
gmflores27
National Champions of 1986 all that matters
gmflores27
Nationals acquired RHPs Kyle McGowin and Austin Adams so nothing special at all. Good move Eppler!!!
RockHard
They would have non tendered him if they made the trade for Eaton before the deadline.. of course he was traded for nothing special at all, if they wanted a good prospect he wouldn’t be headed to Anaheim,seeing as how they have none..
stymeedone
if they wanted a good prospect, they would have to trade someone other than Espinosa.
randalgrichuk15
If they wanted a good prospect, they would of traded him to anywhere BUT the Angels..
rksmythe
RHP Kyle McGowin and RHP Austin Adams. from the Angels to the Nats
bonquisha
Smart guy, he just earned himself an extra 200-300 at bats. Reputation took a hit, but his earning power likely increased.
angelsfan4life
It’s the Angels making moves like this which reminds me how bad Dipoto screwed up the Angels when he was GM. Hopefully the Angels can rebuild the system quickly.
gmflores27
They’re organizational filler have no future in the game at all
SashaBanksFan
It primarily started with tony reagins. Dipoto just continued. 4 for 1 trades for a 3 month rental decimates team. Also Reagins firing Eddie Bane wrecked the organization
donniebaseball
Wasn’t dipoto’s fault. That credit goes to the owner.
angelsfan4life
Donniebaseball seriously? Dipoto is already doing what he did with the Angels with the Mariners. Trade young controllable pitchers, for players going into contract years. Hell he traded 5 players to the Reys last year, then traded that same pitcher for a minor leaguer at the trade deadline.
NineChampionsips
Oh those poor Mariners fans. Shame on the JeDi for trying to put together a winning team before Felix, Cano, Cruz, Seager, etc. all age past their primes. Doesn’t he know that they play in the same division as Mike Trout. Blasphemy!
angelsfan4life
Really ninechampionships? All the good players you named, were there before Dipoto. As a A’s fan, I guess you can fantasize about a team that actually can have stars in there prime. Or do you just out the VHS tapes from the late 80’s?
NineChampionsips
That’s a clown comment bro. The A’s had plenty of stars in their primes and the next wave of stars are on their way. The angels will not get to the playoffs by 2020 and Trout is going to walk to the Yanks hahaha!
tim815
Draft better?
WARrior
The Big A should crush his batting line given that his offense is based on occasional power… 5M and a couple prospects for a good glove seems like a bit of an overpay, maybe. It’s a low stakes move tho.
gmflores27
Two guys who are both 24 and 25 with bad ERAs and FIPs in the upper minors is nothing too bad for LAA
davidcoonce74
5 million is nothing. Espinosa was worth 1.7 WAR last season. That’s like 12 million dollars. Defense counts.
HarveyD82
wow that was quick !!!(unless it may have been in the works already)
pgmitchell
Decent (at best) pitching depth for the Nats ,,,after they lost some depth in the Eaton trade…
angelsinthetroutfield
Love it. Gave up organizational fodder for a solid defender who can be a league average hitter.
drazthegr8 2
.207 is not league average
bonquisha
Also, I love the Angels’ moves this offseason.
Theoretically, they just need to build an 80 win team apart from trout, since he’s worth roughly 9-10 wins. The team just need average-ness with no huge holes. Trout is literally 3 all stars production in 1 player. They have the cash.
Dudes like Danny Espinoza, Jesse Chavez, and Cameron may in are all totally capable of having productive seasons for that 80 win core. Don’t act like Espinoza and maybin can’t possibly be worth 2 war each and Jesse maybe long man 100 innings in the 3.5-4.00 era range.
Average average average
Average will get 80, Trout will get you the playoffs.
It’s dipoto style of buying low. Idk what with this ignorance that the Angels can’t possibly be good this year
*not an Angels fan
RockHard
That’s not how it works dude..
bonquisha
All I’m saying is that a team with a replacement level CF that is a 80-82 win caliber type team, exchange trout for that replacement level guy and you just might have a wild card contender.
Is that so hard to grasp? Or is that so impossible and inconceivable? but I’m sure your 6 word response was elaborate enough to prove you are totally right huh
RockHard
To many variables..
stymeedone
Unfortunately, all of the Angels pitching wont be available because of their injuries. I find it hard to believe that staff will be able to compete.
northsidecrossrifles
@ rockhard so when aren’t there too many variables?! There will forever be a multitude of variables, some with greater degrees of influence. But bonquisha is right, it’s not a complete stretch to imagine this team as a wildcard contender. I don’t see it as the most likely outcome, but the talent is certainly there to sneak in. You only need a roster capable of going .500, and then steal a couple games. I’m also not an angels fan
Ry.the.Stunner
The Cubs had a team WAR of 51.5 in 2016. They won 103 games. WAR does not translate to wins on a 1-to-1 basis.
bonquisha
Yes, I know it’s not on the dot exactly. and that a 80-82win war team could likely win anywhere from like 75-85 games maybe even give or take a few more. Or do I really need to write an essay each time I post to address every single possible caveat
RockHard
Thank you..
seanwh01
Great trade for Angels….gave up nothing more than organizational depth for a starting second baseman.
JKB 2
You gave up nothing and also got nothing in return
halos101
no we got a good defensive second baseman with some pop. and we made sure about not having pennington as our 2b. so yes, we got something
Kingmojo101
How much control do the angels have Espinosa for?
RockHard
1 year rental
angelsfan4life
One year. I hope Sherman Jackson is ready to play in the majors by July.
RockHard
This feels like the nats punishing him for complaining. Oh you wanna grip about being the first man off the bench for a World Series contender? Ok, go play for the second most popular team in LA on a team picked to finish 4th in the division
kargus
Hahaha La is only in name for folks like you. The Angels are the most popular team in Orange County. An Hour south…. population 3.5 million and predictions are just that “predictions”.
RockHard
Oh! Yea he angels, kings of Orange County and no where else.. great fans..
Phillies2017
McGowin and Adams are actually both solid pieces.
Seen McGowins slider? Put that and his 95 fb (likely playing up) in the pen and you have a potentially dominant set-up man.
Adams struck out 12.7 batters per 9 in AA. While his walk numbers were high, he could at least be a decent middle relief arm.
Rizzo got some good value for a player who was worth nothing to the team.
Also, LA is just looking like the Ruben Amaro era Phillies of 2012-2014. Add veterans for no reason and continue to finish with 76 wins. Time to sell off some pieces Eppler, you aren’t with the 2009 Yankees anymore.
Disclaimer- Im a Phillies fan who hates Washington with every ounce of my body and soul, but my non-biased opinion favors them in this trade.
gmflores27
McGowin and Adams will probably be lucky to have anything lower than a 5 ERA IF they make the majors. You post is very inaccurate
gmflores27
You are significantly overvaluing too mediocre pieces
NineChampionsips
Typical angels fan mentality of undervaluing prospects.
halos101
no, this guys trying to say two 25 year olds that are still in the minors will have impact at the majors. stop it
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Given that the Angels have no farm system and little money to spend, they’d be well served to use the Orioles approach. Wait, wait, wait and then sign the desperate players when they get cheap.
Have a few $2 million deals waiting for the best guys who are about to settle for invites to spring training.
The Pirates should do the same. If you can’t make the top end of your roster better, make sure the 23, 24 and 25th spots are solid.
billwood23
Great trade!!! Shored up 2nd for nothing and saved the 40mil for Trumbo or EE at 1st. Hammel, Ross for rotation. Trade Cron
Outlaws12
Have fun with your new .209 hitter.
seanwh01
Angels fans will have as much fun as you can have at a ballpark at least 20 times next year thanks to Espy. Not many can say the same from their second baseman. With what they gave up, they’ll never even miss them a day, unless McGowin and Adams have glowing personalities not measured by stats.
Diablo 2
No thank you. Would rather sign Justin Turner, Trade Escobar. Sign Furbush, Holland and Feliz. And Sign Jacob Turner on a cheap deal and bring in Tyson Ross and Ivan Nova and then trade a starter.
billwood23
It’s all about the change of scenery.
Hence Ricky Nolasco. Predicting 80 point higher average, 20HR, 90RBI
seanwh01
Well, except for the HRs, that’s a bit optimistic.
greenhorn79
Great trade. His .206 batting average will increase in 2017 with the help of Trout. Trout cut back his strikeouts this year and same will happen with Danny. He will have a bounce back year
bravos4evr
This is a win/win trade IMO. Angels get a 2ish WAR 2b without giving up much and the Nats rid themselves of a potential clubhouse issue. I don’t see a lot to complain about really.
halos101
great trade. he plays great defense and adds switch hitting pop. glad we got him over the other guys that we reportedly checked out
Jamespfunk
As a Nats fan I like this trade, I think it works for both sides. Espinosa could have become an issue in the clubhouse and we knew after trading for Eaton he had to be moved. I don’t foresee Espinosa’s numbers getting better, he may start the season hot and bat .270 with a good amount of homers and Angels fans will be excited but he’ll follow up that with a month where he bats .180. One thins undeniable is his defense, he will be great at 2nd and if Simmons goes down for a bit with an injury he can fill in at Short perfectly. I think Nats fans are going to realize how good Espinosa was defensively pretty quickly when they see Turner playing short. Early in his career I was a big Espinosa fan but I quickly grew frustrated watching his terrible plate discipline and high strikeout rate everyday. Nothing is more frustrating than seeing runners on 2nd and 3rd and having Danny step in the box to strikeout every time.
I honestly don’t care what we got in return, one of them may pan out and become a setup man or something. I will say that Rizzo and his Scouts have a decent eye when it comes to picking talent deep in other teams farm systems. I have nothing but best wishes for Danny in Orange County.
nyy42
Why does anyone care about this scrub?
Dan Uggla is better than this junk!
the05nats
One of the most entitled players I’ve ever seen. Will miss his glove and that’s about it.
natforlife
After watching DE for his entire career I can safely report he:
Can grow a beard faster than any human on the planet
Can throw out baserunners with an absolute cannon of an arm
Can get on a hot streak and hit a ton of homers, then go hit less for what seems like weeks
Once in his hitless streak a typical at bat will go like this…swing and miss on a high fastball out of the zone…swing at a ball low and away…strikeout at a ball that is down and in, nearly at his feet. Then pull out a plug of tobacco of his mouth as he walks back to the bench.
Andrescorona235
We got the Second Basemen now need more pitcher
AngelFan69
The Angels could have done much better and perhaps gotten a more decent second baseman… Espinoza is prong to K’s and is only controllable thru 2017… So in actuality,
we just gave up two young arms for a goner after this season … great move Eppler….
halos101
we gave up two 25 year olds who aren’t gonna do anything. no reason to complain about this trade.
Diablo 2
How is he a goner? He’s a free agent until 2018 according to BR, unless BR is wrong
IndianaBob
Cheap and upgrade over Pennington at 2b. If team is not doing well, may be able to trade him at the deadline. Yes, he us a douchebag though.
Raymandrr
Ownership is just showing the Angel fans that their are doing something this guy is bust not a good fit for the Angels they are just settling. Not good enough this very disappointing for both Albert
Diablo 2
Great trade for Billy. Better than all the other options we had and got him for nothing.
KingBong
This has been a funny thread. Kevin Kouzmanoff, calling for head & “herpes…you got herpes”
LOL-ing