OCT. 10: Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun has the breakdown of Hardy’s contract (Twitter links). Hardy will earn $11.5MM in 2015, $12.5MM in 2016 and $14MM in 2017, per Connolly. He adds that the vesting option is valued at $14MM as well and comes with a $2MM buyout. The option will vest based on a certain number of plate appearances but will also automatically vest if Hardy is traded. Hardy can also earn up to $700K per season in performance incentives, according to Connolly, who also tweets that the deal does contain some deferred money.
OCT. 9: Shaking up the free agent market before it opens, and boldly looking to the future even as they prepare to open play in the ALCS, the Orioles have officially announced a three-year extension with shortstop J.J. Hardy.
Hardy will receive $40MM over a guaranteed three year term, representing a $13.3MM average annual value, though that must be discounted somewhat to reflect the deal’s inclusion of $6.5MM in deferred money. Hardy also gets a fourth-year vesting option, based upon plate appearances.
With the new deal, Baltimore will keep its key cog up the middle under team control through at least 2017, his age-34 season. And the free agent market has now lost one of its most appealing everyday position players.
Looking first at Hardy, who just celebrated his 32nd birthday, one finds a player whose profile has changed, but who nevertheless remains consistently productive. Manager Buck Showalter is said to have had a hand in encouraging an early reunion of Hardy and the O’s, reflecting the veteran’s respected standing in the organization.
Since coming to Baltimore in a lopsided trade with the Twins, Hardy has been a steady three-to-four win player, whether one prefers fWAR or rWAR. But how he’s reached those overall levels of production have changed dramatically.
In his first (and best) year in Baltimore, Hardy racked up 30 home runs and a .491 slugging percentage. Over the next two seasons, he steadily contributed twenty or more long balls, but saw his overall power numbers drop. His glove remained sharp, however, and a declining strikeout percentage offered promise. But things swung in 2014, when Hardy suddenly suffered a power outage (he recovered to hit 9 bombs by season’s end, but ended with a career-low .104 ISO) and saw his strikeout rate leap to a career high of 18.3%.
Obviously, those offensive numbers have swung rather widely, with Hardy posting anything from a 78 to a 113 wRC+. But what has not changed much has been his glove. Indeed, in his two down years at the plate (2012 and 2014), Hardy’s even upped his game in the field — at least according to UZR and Defensive Runs Saved. This year, Hardy rated a close second to Andrelton Simmons in overall defensive value among shortstops.
For Baltimore, then, Hardy’s work up the middle sets the floor while his power bat provides the upside in his new extension. While it had been expected, and perhaps hoped, that Manny Machado would slide over from third after this season, that option waned after Machado suffered a second-straight season-ending knee injury. If he can return to health, however, he’ll join Hardy to form the game’s best left-side infield defense.
The deal is not without its risks for the O’s, but few are. And limiting the terms to three years, with the fourth coming via a vesting provision, does reduce the magnitude of the risk somewhat.
More importantly, perhaps, it may have been more challenging to retain Hardy — or find an able replacement — had the team not struck during a brief lull in the postseason action. After all, while, the upcoming free agent market includes several shortstops who have at times been every bit as good as Hardy, none — excepting Hanley Ramirez, who may not stay at the position — has been as consistent. Those that remain, including Asdrubal Cabrera, Jed Lowrie, and Stephen Drew, should benefit from Hardy’s absence, if only because they would have had to wait to sign until he found a home. But the Orioles were likely to find a veteran shortstop one way or another, so the real impact may be on clubs that were hoping to make a run at Hardy.
Ultimately, while Baltimore does not look to have achieved any huge bargain, the club probably saved money against what Hardy might have cost to take back from the open market. Though he would have had to deal with qualifying offer-related draft compensation, Hardy no doubt would have looked to land a new contract somewhere in the realm of Jhonny Peralta’s four-year, $53MM pact from last year.
Jeremy Conn of 105.7 The Fan was first to report that an extension was close (Twitter link), while Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports first reported the deal’s parameters on Twitter. Roch Kubatko of MASNSports.com was first to tweet the final financial terms. MLB.com’s Britt Ghiroli (via Twitter) and Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (also via Twitter) reported that the deal was done.
Roy-Z
JJ Hardy: Not a Yankee.
MB923
But guess who was, Non Hall-of Famer Kevin Youlk
davbee
I see what you’re doing there, MB923
Roy-Z
Quality, quality reply.
DarthMurph
The accepted abbreviation is Youk, but you get an upvote for mentioning one of my favorite players who had one of the ugliest batting stances in baseball history.
Infield Fly
had one of the ugliest batting stances in baseball history.
Amen to that, although I think the worst in recent history was probably Moisés Alou. Watching his stance at the plate literally used to make my knees ache (although the results of his at bats were often stellar).
MB923
I gotta go with Tony Batista as the worst one.
connfyoozed .
Honorable mention to a favorite ex-Bucco of mine, Junior Ortiz
Tko11
Must mention Bagwell and Craig Counsell here.
Flash Gordon
That hand seperation in the batter’s box was classic.
Joe Valenti
I feel like this is a dumb question because part of me knows this reference but I can’t quite place it. What is the inside joke?
Cosmo3
Adam Sandler: the hannukah song
Joe Valenti
Ahhhhhhh, of course!!!! Thanks
EskimoJS
So are Os fans really happy about this? It’s basically an admission that your prized Manny Machado is a failure and cannot handle the position. Enjoy your $40 million consolation prize..?
jjs91
How is that exactly?
MeowMeow
You mean third-baseman Manny Machado?
EskimoJS
No, I mean shortstop Manny Machado. He’s that guy who played shortstop his entire minor league career and was only switched to 3rd for the majors since there was more need there. With the need being at shortstop now, they would have switched him back if he wasn’t made of glass.
MB923
Obviously they don’t have a need at SS now with Hardy there, and Machado plays an Excellent 3B.
MeowMeow
So, everyone who plays one position in the minors then changes positions in the majors and plays elite defense at his new position is a “failure”?
Bleed_Orange
I was attempting to follow his logic as well… doesn’t make much sense.
MeowMeow
“Ugh we have a top-notch shortstop we just re-signed, it’s so unfortunate that our elite third-baseman, a position we don’t have any other clear avenues to fill, can’t be moved to shortstop now.”
Joe Valenti
You are on an absolute roll with all these upvotes
MeowMeow
I spend a lot of time on the internet.
EskimoJS
If they can’t stay healthy, yes.
DarthMurph
Youk has to give his gold glove back because it wasn’t for third base.
Paulie Walnuts
I wonder if “failure” includes guys who were drafted as shortstops but then switched to third, either in the minors or early in their major league careers.
You know, scrubs like Mike Schmidt and George Brett. By this logic, does Craig Biggio count as well?
mstrchef13
Did you somehow forget that Machado turned into quite possibly the best defensive 3B in baseball? There really hasn’t been talk about Machado moving back to SS at all over the last year and a half, at least not here in Baltimore.
Rabbitov
Switch arguably the best defensive 3rd baseman in the Majors to SS, and put who at third, Ryan Flaherty?
basemonkey
Manny’s not playing DH. 3B defense isn’t a gimme. Excellent platinum caliber 3Bs don’t grow on trees. I don’t see how it’s an admission of anything. Moving Manny over to SS would only fill a hole by creating another one.
Jim Johnson
Why can’t Manny ever play SS for the Orioles? He’s 22. When Hardy’s contract is over, he will be 25 in the prime of his career.
Roy-Z
$40 million ain’t what it used to be. The Orioles were going to have a hole at SS, so they filled it with a perfectly capable in-house solution. Have you ever watched Machado play third base? It’s poetic, man.
Infield Fly
Watching Manny play the hot corner is beauty personified! So I hope he can come back and be what he was.
JacobyWanKenobi
He plays a stellar 3B, I wouldn’t even entertain the thought of moving him back to SS.
Infield Fly
Seriously. I can’t see a point in moving him again, as the man has had enough issues to deal with. Let him come back, get settled at third and resume his daily clinic on how to transform defense into art!
Infield Fly
You know, I was thinking about how so many awards are based on flawed analysis and what seems like more than a little favoritism. Naturally, the Gold Glove awards are no exception to this, but where it comes to Manny’s Platinum Glove, the voters got it waaaay right!
Ryan Ke.
The O’s are set at 3B and SS for at least 3 more years to come now that they extended Hardy. Sure, they had plans for Machado to be the SS of the future, but he is an incredible 3B when healthy. Machado is worlds ahead of Arod even with his injury history, and the Yankees don’t have a SS for 2015 yet. The only way they will have a better SS in 2015 is if they trade the whole farm and Betances for Tulo, or sign Hanley. Personally I’d take Hardy over Hanley anyway as he has no business playing SS, but that would be a good debate to have.
orangeoctober
I was really surprised by this news. As an O’s fan, I really thought Hardy would explore the market, and also thought there was a very good chance he’d end up with the Yanks. The news is as wonderful as it is unexpected. Hardy is an important piece, and after Manny’s knee injury this year it was apparent any hope they had of moving him to SS in the off season was gone. I think Hardy’s stock rose considerably in the warehouse after that. Without moving Manny, it’d be very difficult to replace Hardy’s elite defense at a prime position. I’m interested to see what NYY does now. Maybe go after Hanley? Jung-ho Kang? Stephen Drew? Asdrubal?
Damon Bowman
Do you honestly believe that? Machado wins a platinum glove at 3B and spends 2013 chasing the single-season doubles record and he’s a failure?
jeffk-2
Failure? How many failures have a Platinum glove?
NotCanon
Not disagreeing, but the platinum glove is like an all-star game appearance: anybody with a web browser can vote for it.
Dillon Atkinson
If gold glove third base and gold glove shortstop is a consolation prize… Then yes, I’m enjoying my consolation prize.
Joe Valenti
This doesn’t mean he will never play short. There were some who thought the Orioles could potentially move Hardy to 3rd (I must note the I disagreed with this) early in Machado’s career. That’s still a possibility in the event that Hardy doesn’t age well
Mitch Augustyn
rather have two gold glovers on left side of the infield than one.
EskimoJS
I’ve successfully vented my frustrations and am no longer angry. I bid this topic a hardy farewell!
MeowMeow
A JJ Hardy farewell?
Roy-Z
….aaaaand this topic is closed.
JacobyWanKenobi
JJ? More like GG!
MisterBill 2
Or a Met.
Rally Weimaraner
Cashman cries while Hanley and Cabrera rejoice
Jaysfan1994 2
Jed Lowrie also rejoices.
Seamaholic
I guess so. But Jed’s really awful as a SS. There have got to be a dozen or more backup middle infielders teams would prefer to acquire by trade than sign Lowrie.
Flash Gordon
Lowrie should be about the last thing on Cash’ s mind. I really don’t think the Yankees SS is even on the free agent market. Someone mentioned Alexi Ramirez the other day and the White Sox match up well with the Yankees because they could use a good young catcher which is the one thing the Yankees have in surplus. JR Murphy/+/+ for Alexi Ramirez. Kinda makes sense.
Jaysfan1994 2
Just about everyone of the Yankees prospects traded out have gone on to do nothing. J.R Murphy isn’t even a highly valued prospect so it’d take a package to get a 3.0+WAR Shortstop who’s got a pretty team friendly contract for the next two seasons.
The Yankees are better off signing someone and hoping for a offensive rebound in a hitter friendly paradise, Lowrie and Astrubal are both switch hitters.
MB923
“Just about everyone of the Yankees prospects traded out have gone on to do nothing”
Austin Jackson? Ian Kennedy?
Jaysfan1994 2
Jesus Montero and the other millions of examples like Arodys Vizcaino and Jose Tabata? Many of the Yankees hyped prospects have been busts.
MB923
Tabata and Vizcaino were never hyped, and how about I talk about some Blue Jays failed prospects – Travis Snider, JPA, Dustin McGowan, David Purcey, Brett Cecil (the starter), etc.
Jaysfan1994 2
You can look up their rankings, Tabata was hyped and Vizcaino was also a top 100 prospect before the age of 18. The Jays are a joke of an organization and I freely admit it, especially when it comes to developing talent. Our pride and joy has been Adam Lind over the last 10 years. We still never traded away any of the guys who got the hype machine all over them like the Yankees have done with all the “insiders” they pay on the side for their endorsement. Manny Banuelos, Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain all got superstar hype before their first pitch in the majors.
I’ll tell the truth, I’m extremely jealous that so many GM’s fall for the Yankee prospect hype and trade away guys who end up being nothing. The Jays would’ve had to have traded away Stroman, Hutchinson and either Norris or Sanchez to have gotten Jeff Samardzija this year. That really gets me steamed.
VAR
Wow lots of action from the Orioles. You’d think they’d be focused on other things at the moment. Will every Yankee fan that said that him signing with the Yankees was a lock please stand in the corner for five minutes?
Rally Weimaraner
Not to worry their punishment will be watching A-rod try and play SS next year.
Jaysfan1994 2
A-Rod’s got a better chance hitting 50 bombs next year than playing shortstop. Although, steroids are one hell of a drug.
MB923
“Will every Yankee fan that said this was a lock please stand in the corner for five minutes?”
Looks around…..sees no one standing. None of us said it was a lock.
How about you and some of the rest of your Red Sox fans try to come up with yet another package for Stanton with Cespedes as the key piece
Bleed_Orange
(Opens a bag of popcorn and smiles awaiting this dialogue)
MB923
Probably the 2nd most fun you’ll have, with the most fun of course starting tomorrow night
MeowMeow
Four team deal!!
Cespedes and Judge to Miami
Stanton to Boston
Hardy to New York
Eduardo Rodriguez back to Baltimore because why not
MB923
Let’s get 6 teams in and get Toronto and Tampa in for the whole AL East…..of course Kelly Johnson has to be in the mix too.
MeowMeow
Does anyone still have Max Ramirez?
Roy-Z
Might as well play for the whole division…twice.
dgapa
AA does love his 3-ways.
JacobyWanKenobi
We can probably fish up Nick Green and Kevin Cash, they’re really close to completing their collections!
Tko11
Then all we need is Wakefield to come out of retirement.
MB923
And Johnny Damon
Seamaholic
You hate Miami, don’t you?
MeowMeow
I mean, sort of? But that scenario is awful by design
jjs91
Just buck to pressure and give Cespedes to the Mets.
Roy-Z
You’ll have to press the “force trades” button.
VAR
Are you the only Yankee fan? I’ve had several of you here and on the MLB boards tell me Hardy was going to be your shortstop in 2015.
MB923
And I’ve heard several Red Sox fans talk about Stanton trade rumors, particularly starting with Cespedes and/or JBJ. More than several actually.
VAR
Good for them. Not sure why you would take it personally. I didn’t call you out by name. I’ve seen Red Sox fans propose Stanton trades. I’m a big fan of telling them exactly why they aren’t going to happen.
But I wouldn’t deny that. Why are you denying SOME Yankee fans had Hardy penciled in at the 6 spot next year?
MB923
I’m aware and I didn’t call you out by name either.
VAR
No, you replied to my comment stating that basically no Yankee fans though Hardy was going to be on the team next year. Why so defensive?
MeowMeow
I think the both of you need a good hug. Bring it in.
MB923
Hugs
MB923
For the exact same reason You’re being defensive lol. I come on this site nearly every day and I’ve not seen One Yankee fan say something like “we are definitely getting Hardy”. As far as the MLB boards, I don’t go on there though.
VAR
I am defensive because you responded to my statement. That’s kinda the point here. I’m sure I was just making it up. All Yankee fans are a delight to behold just like all Red Sox fans.
MB923
Fair enough 🙂
Jaysfan1994 2
If we’re getting into who said what I remember you saying Andrew Miller was no good earlier this year and wanted him off the team ASAP, looks like he’s poised to get 3yrs/21M.
Just saying, people say a lot of things.
VAR
I don’t ever call for people to be off the team ASAP. So it probably wasn’t me.
And for what it’s worth Andrew Miller is off the team.
VAR
See I wouldn’t do that. Not a big fan of large market entitlement. And there is no reason the Marlins would want Cespedes that I can think of.
MB923
“Not a big fan of large market entitlement”
Nor am I, but you know we both have fans that do that. I just never heard, On Here, any Yankee fan say JJ is a lock to go to the Yankees.
JacobyWanKenobi
I was too busy getting hyphy over Jung Ho Kang’s KBO highlights, even though KBO stats mean little as the two leagues are so far apart in skill level.
DarthMurph
Will Middlebrooks, Allen Craig, and bullpen coach Dana LeVangie for Stanton?
MB923
You have to throw in that white haired man behind home plate at every Red Sox home game 🙂
MeowMeow
He’d probably like to move. I was walking to a game behind him one day and passers-by were calling out the slogan from his company’s commercials at him xD
Elm City Old School
Have the Mets recovered enough financially to drop a $300 million dollar bomb on Stanton’s lap?
EskimoJS
No one said this. Feel free to prove me wrong by telling me the article thread and the username of one single person who said it.
VAR
Really? It was a joke. And yes one or two Yankee fans have said it. I am not planning to go through and reread every single post on the board to confirm it.
robbyb
TBS announcers said it during the ALDS… They also said the Os will be losing a majority of their team to FA.. named Hardy and Cruz and could not think of anyone else and started naming people who are free agents after next year.. IE Davis and Wieters…
East Coast Bias
Okay, you’re safe, just edited all my previous posts… haha
Seriously though, I did say I hope Hardy signs with us, or it makes sense for the Yankees to sign Hardy, but I don’t recall ever saying or reading on here that it was a “lock.”
Nothing is a lock anymore. Maybe 10 years ago when Yankees were the only big money players, aka the good old days… But not anymore.
MB923
Exactly
ps2014
Yes, it is tough to do more than one thing at once.
bgardnerfanclub
I am a Yankee fan who desperately wanted Hardy, and frankly I am a little sad today. The other options aren’t nearly as appealing. Maybe Asdrubal Cabrera, although I am one of the few Yankee fans who seems to actually like Brendan Ryan.
Flash Gordon
Around can DEFINITELY move back now that Jeter is gone.
Bleed_Orange
The timing is very surprising but the move is understandable, SS is such a hard position to replace and Machado cannot be counted on healthwise… looks like he could be the next Tulo…. TONS of up side… always hurt
robbyb
He had a knee issue that was abnormal…
rct 2
I feel like he could have gotten more on the open market, but good for him and good for the O’s.
MB923
I was suspecting about $45-$50 million for him actually due to a not so great year due ot injuries mainly and slightly up there in age at a position not many play full time in their mid 30’s,
Good deal overall though for the O’s.
Phillyfan425
Ehh, this season he was between Jordy Mercer and Ruben Tejada in wRC+. He’s a great defensive player (4th in DRS, 2nd in UZR/150), but 3 years, $40 M isn’t that big of a steal.
MB923
Well for a player who’s probably the 2nd best (or I guess I should say Would have been the 2nd best) at that position on the market, I’d say it’s a fairly good deal.
Phillyfan425
I’m not saying it’s not a fair deal. I just look at it (comparably) to Jimmy Rollins’ last contract. Both went into their age 32 season for the first year of the new contract and both had a mid-3 fWAR the season leading up to FA. Jimmy came out with Jose Reyes – Hardy is coming out with Hanley (while not the same, they are both the “second option” for SS). At the time, Phils were called out on the Rollins deal (and he has a better bat than Hardy). It’s a fine deal – considering its about the same “value” on the money ($11 M in 2011 is probably about equal to $13 M in 2014, at least in baseball).
It’s a fine deal for Hardy, I’m just not sure it’s that great of a deal for the O’s – considering he generates most of his value from defense.
Flash Gordon
The extra year means something, Doesn’t it? Hardy got a 4th year option based on playing time while Rollins got a guaranteed 4th year and a fifth year option. Like you said the annual values are similar but when you look at what Peralta got last year it’s hard to disagree with the Hardy deal, particularly when you look at what Hardy and Machado have done for team ERA over the last couple years. With an up and coming Gausman and a healthy Bundy it all makes even more sense.
Phillyfan425
Rollins signed a 3 year deal with a 4th year vesting option (based on PA). Same situation as Hardy just signed.
Flash Gordon
My bad, you are correct, I recall the exact contract now. Somehow I read your comment and extrapolated that 2011 was the first year of the deal. Rollins has certainly been worth the extension he signed under similar circumstances as Hardy is now and Amaro certainly got hammered for it at the time. Your point is well taken.
bdpecore
Orioles are getting good value with this deal. i believe Hardy could have gotten at least a four year deal on the open market.
EskimoJS
Lol Hardy. It’ll be funny to watch Baltimore dip back to irrelevancy by next season and not make the playoffs. Sure hope Hardy gets his ring this year since he won’t get another chance after this contract.
MB923
Can I have the lotto numbers?
EskimoJS
There’s a difference between predicting random numbers and predicting very predictable sports patterns based on readily available data.
Casey Calvert
Except for the fact that everyone predicted the O’s would finish last in the AL East, but now they are in the ALCS…
MB923
I think most picked Toronto last. But it was pretty split between NY, Boston and Tampa for first. They nearly finished, 3rd, 4th and 5th.
EskimoJS
Almost everyone had them in either 1st or 2nd. Admittedly, I had them in 2nd behind the Rays. Most predictors had them in the top 3 at the very worst. No one had them below 3rd.
robbyb
So you never heard of ESPN, mlb.com or sports illustrated?
rccb
Very interested in these data you reference.
MB923
So share the data then.
EskimoJS
Just look at the amount of wins the Os had compared to the other AL East teams. Os will almost certainly be the same roster as this season and many of them played way over their heads. They will regress. Red Sox and Yankees plan to improve, and I’m sure the Rays will bounce back. When Os have a few teams as competition in the division the gap will shrink into nothing.
rccb
I would like to hear how this obviously highly predictive model of “wins relative to division opponents” translates to the other divisions.
MeowMeow
Baltimore has won a lot of games the last three seasons. I think they’re top five in wins?
robbyb
Top 4… and it is very close.. WSH 280, OAK 278, STL 275 and BAL 274… But I am sure next year will be different according to Eskimo…
Flash Gordon
Wow! I realized the O’s had won some games but did not realize how close they were to being the best team in baseball during the regular season over the last 3 years.
not_brooks
Aside from Steve Pearce and maybe Miguel Gonzalez, name an Oriole who has played over his head this year.
Jim Johnson
You’re also assuming that some of the young players they played this year do not progress. Gausman, Schoop, Machado. Do you not see them getting better next year? They also get back Wieters. So maybe a guy like Pearce regresses, but that can be balanced out by the progression of other players.
Flash Gordon
What’s up with that? Have you been stashed away in an igloo without a good WiFi connection or something?
Flash Gordon
I don’t know about them dipping back into irrelevancy. If they get Writers, Machado and Davis back along with some decent pitching from Gausman and Bundy they just might be alright.
UVAguy81
Next, renegotiate with Markakis and definitely do whatever you can to try to keep Andrew Miller. He has been great in our bullpen and hope we can shock people and get something done, even though I won’t hold my breath waiting for him to be re-signed.
Roy-Z
Miller will surely test the market. He’s been so good as a reliever, he’d be foolish not to.
UVAguy81
And I agree with that. I would just like for the FO to make him an offer he’d be stupid to refuse. But since he likely won’t re-sign with the O’s, I’d like for them to use that money towards a Lester, Scherzer or Shields. I doubt any of them would be a dud like Ubaldo has been.
Jim Johnson
The O’s need to keep their pick. The big league roster has become more talented, but that has come at the expense of the farm. They need to keep improving their minor league system.
robbyb
I believe he has publicly said he would like to return to Boston..
Jim Johnson
Andrew Miller would be a horrible signing. For too much money for a team like the Orioles.
Jimmy Willy
The hate against the Yankees in these boards are tremendous. Do all of you have to display your Yankee hate every post you make? It just shows how many of you guys are more willing to hate the Yankees than to like your own teams. Come on
Matlack
Part of being a Mets fan. Dodgers and Giants fans hated the Yankees with a passion.
It’s a fine olde tradition.
EDIT: wrong board, but hey, it still applies 😉
VAR
I like a little hatred mixed in with my rivalries personally. Where’s the fun in liking the other team?
d-blaque12123
Exactly. If we didn’t have ill will between rivals, the games wouldn’t be as fun.
Mikenmn
Completely agree. When my daughter was looking at colleges in Boston I had to control myself and say all the right things like “wow, what a great place.” All the while I worried, could four years contaminate? Fortunately, she choose otherwise.
VAR
Too bad. There are some great schools in Boston, and great medical care. She couldn’t have gone wrong choosing Boston. I doubt they’d have forced her to put on a Red Sox hat.
Mikenmn
LOL. There are terrific schools in Boston, and I would have coped (and it’s a lot easier to visit). I’m not sure you have access to the NYTimes, but there’s a great photo-montage this morning about women fans, and a terrific shot of 4 nuns under an umbrella in Fenway in 1964. I don’t think MLBTR will let me post the link.
VAR
Thanks I’ll check it out.
HoopDreams
When you are the most successful and known franchise in North American sports, its bound to happen
Jimmy Willy
I understand but it seems that some of the posters here base a lot of their posts on the Yankees and their fans rather than focusing on the experience their franchises have provided. It’s a shame
MB923
lol this is nothing new. So just get used to it, like, forever now.
ps2014
When many fans arrogantly predict that every good free agent will sign with them, yeah, you’ve earned some hate.
Mikenmn
jimmy, when you see Red Sox fans complain about Yankee spending (as we all know, the Red Sox are a small market team who have never been known to offer a large contract to anyone) I think you can realize that being a Yankee fan just means you have to take it. We should consider ourselves lucky. Our management may show poor judgement at times, but it does care about winning, and is willing to spend on it.
East Coast Bias
Damn, wanted him to sign with they Yanks, as did every other Yankees fan. But good deal for Baltimore. That left side defense is a beast!
We’ll probably end up signing Hanley, who I really like, unlike most fans.
Jimmy Willy
Not really, Hardy is solid but I’d rather them look to trade for a young SS and spend some money on Tomas. (Who they reportedly are unlikely to pursue.
Charlie Burns
So they can take Elvis Andrus? Please?
Ryan Ke.
Now its time for them to lock up Andrew Miller. 3 years 15 mill. Get it done DD! Or he will be back in Boston or in NY.
Bleed_Orange
You don’t think Detroit will sign him? Miller will cost 3yr 21mil …. pass
VICTOR DEDOVIC
Well done, Hardy. Glad you didn’t chase the money.
DarthMurph
Good for the O’s and for Hardy. Not every player should be fodder for the Yanks/Dodgers and Hardy is smart to stick with what he likes.
MB923
“Not every player should be fodder for the Yanks/Dodgers”
Or Red Sox 🙂
Metsfan93
I think it’s a fair deal. I like it.
connfyoozed .
Very smart move.
Curt Green
Oriole fans, you can thank Twins Ex-GM Billy Smith for the gift of J.J. Which is part of the reason he is an ex-GM.
Damon Bowman
If J.J. Hardy continues to play the defense he’s shown over the last couple of years the deal is a tad bit high. On the other hand, if his power returns slightly or he maintains that .280-.290 average he flashed throughout 2014 this could be quite a bargain for the O’s.
Patrick Donahue
Nice player but one who hasn’t hit more than .268 in the last few years and his power has dropped from 30, 25, and 22 HR’s to 9? $13m a year for that!?
sdsny
I checked his stats to see if maybe he was hurt, but yeah. He played in 141 games and only hit 9 homers. That’s quite a drop. His 2B numbers stayed consistent, so maybe he just hit more line drives? I don’t know.
NotCanon
Rollins’ contract was always pretty nice, but it’s looking positively great now.
Flash Gordon
It’s just a silver lining to an awfully bleak cloud.
NotCanon
Not really. Rollins’ contract was a sunk cost regardless of how well the team did. That he’s continued to play at a level that most SS in either league would love to replicate is nice, but it’s not like anybody was hanging their hats on the deal.
Rather, I’d say it just goes to show that the Phillies fans who wanted to run everybody associated with the deal out of town on a rail were acting more on (weird) emotion than reason.
BitLocker
Time for Yankees to trade for Castro.
MB923
Doubt the Cubs would give him up and the Yankees pitching in the farm isn’t strong. I would have to assume the Cubs would want pitching. Too many position players on that team.
sdsny
I don’t know, despite his talent, that Castro’s a good fit in NY anyway. He can be a little lax at times. Considering he’d be replacing a guy who never took anything for granted, that could spell disaster.
Bill Scripture
The Yanks don’t have anything to offer, the Cubs would find far more value with one of the other teams out there.
GRob78
Some of the best news I heard all week. Locks down the left side of the infield, and with Schoop getting better at 2nd (he’s not all there yet), the Orioles might be set up for a long run with solid defense. We’re not sure what will happen with Chris Davis, but this is very good news.
Of course, this doesn’t solve all the mystery. Wieters is an open question after 2015. Whether the Orioles will keep Markakis, who has had a solid year, is another lingering question. Having Hardy stay in Baltimore is great news though.
The O’s need some speed. Hardy isn’t going to help there, but he’s adding more in the other areas. Of course, we’re all looking forward to the ALCS starting tonight.
Bill Scripture
A couple of years ago, this would have been a no-brainer and he would have ended up on the Yankees, but times have changed and the new economics of baseball are allowing teams like the O’s to keep their players and baseball is far better for it.
cman
J.J. Hardy & Brendan Harris for Jim Hoey & Brett Jacobson is THE worst trade that Terry Ryan’s initiated as Twins GM. Still don’t understand what the heck he was thinking when he made this move.