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Competitive Balance Lottery Takes Place Today

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | July 18, 2012 at 10:02am CDT

Baseball’s first Competitive Balance Lottery takes place today, when small-market and low-revenue teams will have the chance to win extra selections in next year’s amateur draft. The ten smallest-market teams and ten lowest-revenue teams will have the chance to win extra selections in 2013, Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com reports. 

There’s overlap between small-market teams and low-revenue teams, so there are 13 clubs involved in the first-round lottery: the Diamondbacks, Orioles, Indians, Royals, Athletics, Pirates, Padres, Rays, Reds, Rockies, Marlins, Brewers and Cardinals. The first six selections will be made between the first and second rounds of next year’s draft. A second group of six picks will be available to the teams from the first group that didn’t get an early pick, plus the Tigers. The second group of selections will be made after the second round of the draft. 

MLB teams can trade the draft picks they obtain in the Competitive Balance Lottery. The picks, which can only be traded once, cannot be sold or traded during the offseason. In theory, the draft picks could be involved in some of this summer’s deadline deals. 

The lottery takes place today at 12:30pm CDT/1:30pm EDT in New York and the winners will be announced 75 minutes later. A team’s chances of winning depend on its winning percentage from the previous season.

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  1. JesseeA

    13 years ago

    Am I the only one who finds this… bizarre?

    Reply
    • cedarandstone

      13 years ago

      MLB is looking more Japanese game show than major league every day.

      Reply
    • MB923

      13 years ago

       With 8 likes and counting, the answer is clearly No

      Reply
    • Ken Roucka

      13 years ago

      I agree.

      All but the Royals, A’s and Rays have very modern facilities. The Red Sox and the Cubs are dealing with 100 year old parks that they have to try to wring every dime out of.

      The Cards are hardly small market. They are a regional favorite that draws fans from all over the midwest. The Marlins just backed up the truck for three free agents this year.

      This is rife with problems. In my 40 years the Orioles, Indians, Royals, A’s, Pirates, Reds & Cards have all had long stretchs of being competetive even while being in a “small market”. 

      I’m surprised Reinsdorf wasn’t able to convince his pal Bud to shoe horn the White Sox into this group. He regularly refers to his team as small market.

      Reply
      • Seals

        13 years ago

        I’m a Cardinals fan and I agree. Don’t get me wrong, I like getting an extra pick but this is pretty ridiculous. Shouldn’t the payroll of those teams go into it?

        Reply
      • mattt-3

        13 years ago

        Even though Ken’s usage of “market” is technically inaccurate (by using the real definition of what a market is, St. Louis is one of the smallest in baseball), his overall point is still very accurate. The Cardinals draw television ratings from a much larger area and the local fanbase is far more devoted to this team than the fans in most larger cities, so the Cardinals are technically a small market team, but they’re a small market team the way the Green Bay Packers are in the NFL.

        Arguing over semantics for a team that is certainly doing quite well when it comes to revenues is silly.

        I’m also a Cardinals fan and while I like my team being on this list because it could potentially help them, it doesn’t fit. In fact, the team that Ken used as an example in the White Sox probably are a more needy team when it comes to getting help than the Cardinals are. Regardless, like I said–it benefits my team, so I’m down with it. 😉

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        • Ken Roucka

          13 years ago

          I may not have articulated my point well enough but you have the jist of it. Thank you.

          Reply
  2. Alex

    13 years ago

    How is St. Louis in there? Makes no sense. Then again, nothing about this makes sense, especially if you can’t spend money in the draft.

    Reply
    • nbcards

      13 years ago

       St. Louis is there because they are a small market team.

      Reply
      • jill

        13 years ago

         Uh, a small market team that consistently draws over 3 million is not really a small market team.  A ‘small’ market team that consistently has a payroll near or over 100 million is not really a ‘small’ market team. 

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        • Ben Cerutti

          13 years ago

          Just because we have great fans doesn’t mean that we should be punished for being in a smaller market than most of the other teams in the league. The fact that the fans come out enables the team to spend over $100M on payroll. However, with the lavish TV contracts being signed on the coasts, the Cardinals are going to start falling behind badly in the revenue stream, like these other teams, without this draft. I like it.

          Reply
          • champ

            13 years ago

             Great fans? The Cards are usually a winning team. The Cubs have great fans.

            Reply
            • stl_cards16

              13 years ago

              They had the lowest attendance last year in how long? No teams draw a crowd when the team is bad.

              Reply
        • CyYoungSuppan

          13 years ago

           Please look up the definition of what a sports market is.  Milwaukee is the smallest in the league, yet they draw over 3 million regularly now.

          Reply
      • Ken Roucka

        13 years ago

        The Cards are hardly small market. They are a regional team, like the Red Sox & Cubs, that draws fans from all over the midwest.

        Reply
    • jwsox

      13 years ago

      They may be a “small market” which I have a problem calling st Louis a small market and I live in a Chicago suburb and I see cards commercials up here. But your shouldn’t be in a competitive balance lottery when you just won the world series.

      Reply
  3. Jays Fan

    13 years ago

    What I find funny, is that of that list of 13 teams, most if not all of them are pretty competitive… I don’t see the point in giving teams extra draft picks solely on the basis of their “revenue” or “market”.

    Reply
    • nick 20

      13 years ago

      Its goes by last years record.  Next year some of these teams wont be on the list since next years draft will be based off of this years record.  I take that back,  some of them will still be there because of local revenue.

      Reply
      • Jays Fan

        13 years ago

        When the defending World Series Champions are being rewarded with extra draft picks on a competitive balance list… I shake my head.

        Reply
        • nbcards

          13 years ago

           Its because St. Louis is considered a small market team. The Cardinals fall into the bottom 10 of mlb teams in terms of market share

          Reply
          • flickadave

            13 years ago

            That doesn’t mean that it makes sense.

            Reply
  4. bigpat

    13 years ago

    This is very odd, I never knew you can trade the picks, this whole thing seemingly came out of nowhere.

    Oh well, I hope the Pirates get a first rounder, having two picks in round 1 plus the comp pick will be awesome coming off what is likely their best season in 20 years. If they trade a few prospects they will be able to reload with this draft for sure. 

    Reply
  5. Doc

    13 years ago

    I don’t get the reference with the Tigers.  Why are they there?

    Reply
    • jill

      13 years ago

       Yeah, why the Tigers and the Cardinals and the Brewers? 

      All three of those teams draw remarkably well and the Tigers and Cardinals have payrolls over 100 million and the Brewers have a payroll close to 90 million.  I do not understand their inclusion at all. 

      Reply
      • Joseph K

        13 years ago

        It is because of the total market.  To draw 3mm fans in Milwaukee or St. Louis, every person in that market has to go to 1.76 games, and 1.42 games per year, respectively.  Compare that to say the Yankees, every person has to go to .13 games/year.  Both are very small markets.

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      • LarrySellers

        13 years ago

        The Brewers are absolutely one of the teams deserving to be on here.  Just because they have great fans doesn’t mean they aren’t one of the smallest markets in pro sports.  Joseph K nailed it. The fact that Milwaukee draws 3million fans a year is pretty impressive in my opinion.

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      • stl_cards16

        13 years ago

        Because neither payroll or attendance has anything to do with your market size. Just because some teams in small markets have been successful in maxing out their market, doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be treated as small market teams.

        Reply
    • Sky14

      13 years ago

      I don’t get it either. A team that just this past off season committed to a $214 million contract to one player isn’t at a competitive disadvantage. 

      Reply
  6. cedarandstone

    13 years ago

    Then the GMs face off in physical challenges and feats of strength for special “jump in front of the waiver line” cards.

    Reply
    • No Neck

      13 years ago

       Double Dare: MLB GM Edition

      Reply
  7. BD

    13 years ago

    I seem to remember reading that if you trade for one of these picks, it holds half of the slot value for the receiving team (or something like this).  Anybody else have any idea what I’m talking about?

    Reply
  8. BlueSkyLA

    13 years ago

    This system looks like it might be useful on the surface, but in reality is competitive balance in name only. It’s really a token sop to small-market teams, many of which will never be competitive for more than short stretches, if ever. Even if these teams manage to select a top player between the rounds, everybody knows what will happen when that player goes to arbitration. The fundamental problem in baseball is that small-market teams are at a structural disadvantage. MLB refuses to address that problem. Don’t be fooled by this paper-over job.

    Reply
    • alxn

      13 years ago

      The only way to fully address that problem is contraction.

      Reply
      • BlueSkyLA

        13 years ago

        I don’t agree. The financial capabilities of teams only got totally out of whack when media became such a big part of their revenue picture. I won’t repeat what others have already said so well, but to summarize, a team that fields a competitive team on a regular basis will put fans in the seats. Keeping the smaller-market teams on a perpetually muddy slope, and then blaming the city for not having enough fans, seems like a perfect self-fulfilling prophecy.

        Reply
        • alxn

          13 years ago

          How do you explain the Rays then, or the A’s of the early 2000’s?

          Reply
          • BlueSkyLA

            13 years ago

            Low payroll teams can be competitive when the stars align, but when they don’t align, those teams will be noncompetitive. More often than not, the stars will not align. Your own example of the A’s since the early 2000s is case in point.

            Reply
            • alxn

              13 years ago

              My point was that the fans never showed despite having very competitive teams that made the playoffs several times over a long period of time.

              Reply
              • BlueSkyLA

                13 years ago

                First of all I wouldn’t say that it was necessarily a long period of time for either of these teams, and I also wouldn’t say being competitive made no difference to the fans. In their brief glory years, the A’s were drawing good crowds, around the middle of the pack for all teams. When their fortunes declined, the fans stayed away in droves, and now they are in the attendance basement. Look also at the Mariners. When then were competitive ten and more years ago, they were drawing more fans per game than any team in MLB. Compare to today.

                Reply
  9. BlueSkyLA

    13 years ago

    This plan does nothing to restore competitive balance. Small-market teams are at a structural competitive disadvantage. MLB refuses to address the structural issues.

    Reply
  10. RHova87

    13 years ago

    this is a joke…MLB got it very wrong…

    Reply
  11. Ken Roucka

    13 years ago

    This should be looking a profit too rather than just revenue. It was just a few years ago that Deadspin exposed the Pirates & Royals as teams that were pocketing loads of cash even though they are “low revenue”.

    Reply
  12. Vmmercan

    13 years ago

    Ah, the affirmative action of MLB. Very nice.

    Reply
    • ratmoss

      13 years ago

      I prefer to think of it as “redistribution of wealth.”  Seriously, I don’t think any of these supposedly small market teams’ owners are crying poor.  If it were not economically feasible to field a team in Milwaukee, or Detroit, or St. Louis any one of these businesspeople would close up shop or move the team somewhere where the money is. 

      Reply
  13. flickadave

    13 years ago

    I’m going to go out on a limb and say that any team that makes the playoffs the year before probably doesn’t need an extra pick to help them with “competitive balance”. Bud Selig is just a horrible, horrible commish.

    Reply
    • stl_cards16

      13 years ago

      You do realize this is on the CBA, every owner agreed to it. It was probably either a better revenue sharing system, which big markets obviously wouldn’t like, or this. Large markets still hold a HUGE advantage that a couple draft picks cannot make up.

      Reply
      • flickadave

        13 years ago

        Yes, I do realize that this is in the new CBA. That still doesn’t make it a good idea. I would love to know how St. Louis is a small market when they drew the 6th most people to their games last year. Did you miss the part that called this the “competitive balance” draft lottery? I would think that the defending world series champs don’t need much help with “competitive balance”. The Cubs need help, not the Cards and yet the Cubs get no shot at extra picks.

        Reply
  14. Jays Fan

    13 years ago

    Since Alex Anthopolous LOVES draft picks, maybe he should move the Jays to Saskatoon… and tap into this small market advantage!

    Reply
  15. marketbuzz

    13 years ago

    I could see a “crappy” team draft, but many of those teams are good, and have been in the playoffs…. how would being more “competitive” help them if being a playoff team already isnt good enough?

    Reply
  16. Regina

    13 years ago

    I just think they went too far giving TEN teams from both low revenue and market status.  It’s way too many!  If they honored the FIVE lowest teams from each list I think most of us would agree the list looked justifiable.  Ten is one third of the entire MLB!  It’s way too many to consider it balance…

    Reply
  17. champ

    13 years ago

    How are the Blue Jays not on this list of “small market teams”? 

    Reply
    • Ken Roucka

      13 years ago

      and the Twins

      Reply
      • champ

        13 years ago

         Yes, especially the Twins!!

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    • Jays Fan

      13 years ago

      Apparently Bud Selig considers “Canada” a large market. Not to mention, Rogers Communications is one of the richest owners in MLB. Selig is just pissed off at Toronto because AA took his new draft rules and devised a clever plan to pretty much find an advantage and use it.

      Having said that, it isn’t like Rogers is going to open the vault for the Jays, and even if they did, AA wont splurge like JPR did. He doesn’t believe in deals over 5 years.

      Reply
    • therednorth

      13 years ago

      Because Toronto has a population of 6.6 million, which at that number is already the fourth-biggest city in the US & Canada… not including the rest of Canada (another 28 million), which apparently counts as Toronto’s market.  Let me ask those Vancouverites if they’ll drive down to the Rogers Centre for a game this season.

      Of course, there’s probably other things to consider when making a “competitive balance lottery” than population, but you’d have to take that up with Selig.

      Reply
    • stl_cards16

      13 years ago

      The Blue Jays? Haha. I can make an argument for a few teams and the Jays aren’t one.

      Reply
      • champ

        13 years ago

         Why not the Jays? Population of city has nothing to do with it. I live in Phoenix (one of the top 10 most populated cities in the nation) and the Dbacks are considered a small market.

        When you look at the Jays– low payroll, crappy stadium, terrible fan attendance. Definition of a small market team.

        Reply
  18. NOT KIDDING

    13 years ago

    Because Toronto is a huge city, bigger than all but NYC, LA, and Chicago. 

    Reply
  19. FSogol

    13 years ago

    How come Baltimore and Washington are considered the same area when splitting up tv revenue, but completely different markets when handing out extra draft picks?  Maybe Selig would have been better off creating a crappy owner  draft.

    Reply
  20. sabernar

    13 years ago

    I have an idea: how about giving bad teams higher draft picks! That should help even out the landscape. Oh, wait…

    Reply
    • Jays Fan

      13 years ago

      Or how about dismantling the AL East powerhouse and spreading some of the teams out to the other divisions so we dont see .500 teams making the playoffs while .600 teams stay home. (and NO Im not referring to the Jays… we’re not there yet… lol)

      Reply
      • sabernar

        13 years ago

         Fine with me. Or have each league have only two divisions.

        Reply
  21. John W

    13 years ago

    Since these lottery picks are between the 1st and 2nd rounds, and compensation picks are between the 1st and 2nd rounds as well, does anyone know which picks come first?  This could have a lot to do with the value of these lottery picks, and I’m amazed (not really) at the number of posts and no one even questioned this, choosing instead to rant about meaningless drivel.

    Reply
  22. Edgar4evar

    13 years ago

    So five of the eight playoff teams from 2011 will get “competitive balance” picks in 2013? I don’t think the word “balance” means what Bud Selig thinks it means.

    Want to add balance? Put a third baseball team in NYC or one in New Jersey.

    Reply
  23. DempseyK

    13 years ago

    Man, I really hope the Pirates win the lottery for one of the first 1 or 2 picks…

    They would very well wind up with the 9th, 22nd-30th, and the 31st-36th overall picks

    3 picks inside the first 35 overall would be incredible.  Supposed to be a pitching deep draft too.  Might make parting ways with Taillon a bit easier to swallow if we are confident that we can replace him with an advanced college arm that would project to be big league ready at about the same time Taillon would be.

    If you can replace an advanced high school arm with an advanced college arm, you should be losing too much MLB  service time as the college arm would be big league ready faster and kinda break even with a high schooler with 1-2 years of minor league ball under there belt.

    Just my 2 cents

    Reply
  24. therednorth

    13 years ago

    How’s this for a “competitive balance” lottery:
    Every consecutive season you have been at .500 or below, you receive one ball.
    Every consecutive season you’ve missed the playoffs, you receive one ball.
    First six balls chosen get first-round sandwich picks (can only get one pick); next six balls chosen get second-round sandwich picks. Everyone else gets nothing.
    So this season, we would get:
    Team: # of Balls (losing seasons + no playoffs):
    Pittsburgh: 38 (19+19)
    Washington: 37 (8+29)
    Kansas City: 34 (8+26)
    Baltimore: 28 (14+14)
    Toronto: 19 (1+18)
    Seattle: 12 (2+10)
    Oakland: 10 (5+5)
    Cleveland: 10 (5+5)
    Miami: 10 (2+8)
    Houston: 9 (3+6)
    Mets: 8 (3+5)
    San Diego: 6 (1+5)
    Cubs: 5 (2+3)
    White Sox: 4 (1+3)
    Colorado: 3 (1+2)
    Boston: 2 (0+2)
    Minnesota: 2 (1+1)
    Cincinnati: 2 (1+1)
    Angels: 2 (0+2)
    Dodgers: 2 (0+2)
    Atlanta: 1 (0+1)
    San Francisco: 1 (0+1)
    Looks like a fair result to me.
    “Oh, but therednorth, that would just create a system that rewards mediocrity.” What do you think the draft is? It’s a system that rewards mediocrity.

    Reply
    • BlueSkyLA

      13 years ago

      I can see you put a lot of thought into this but I think you begin with a faulty premise. Mediocrity and failure should not be recognized or rewarded by the draft or any other equalization system. The problem is revenue imbalance.

      Reply
  25. jwsox

    13 years ago

    This should have nothing to do with market size, because miami is such a SMALL market right? that’s what revenue sharing is SUPPOSED to be for, that system needs to be revamped to stop owners from pocketing that money. It should be the ten worst teams last year by record getting an extra pick. That’s all.

    Reply
  26. DaCubsDaBears

    13 years ago

    You oughta get a pick if you go over 100 years without winnin a World Series.

    Reply
  27. Kyle Miller

    13 years ago

    This will do little to restore competitive balance. Low revenue teams can win with strong player development, and high revenue teams can lose with bad investments(Cubs) and poor development. In addition, small market teams with strong fan bases can have large payrolls and be quite successful(Tigers and Cardinals 100 mil+). Why not figure in winning percentage like the basketball lottery? Not that it works any better for ensuring competitive balance but it makes a whole lot more sense.

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