The Yankees re-signed Mariano Rivera to a two-year deal, the team announced today. The contract will pay Rivera $30MM, according to Christian Red of the New York Daily News.
Now 41, Rivera is coming off yet another dominant season. He posted a 1.80 ERA with 6.8 K/9 and 1.7 BB/9 in 60 innings of work. It's logical to assume that Rivera will slow down at some point, but recent history suggests Rivera can still be an effective late-inning reliever. He has a 1.64 ERA with 8.9 K/9, 1.3 BB/9 and three All-Star selections since 2008.
Rivera received competitive offers from rival teams, including the Red Sox, but wanted to stay in pinstripes. Agent Fernando Cuza confirmed that interested teams other than the Yankees called about Rivera and Jon Heyman of SI.com reported that the Red Sox and Angels were two of three teams that offered the closer three-year deals (all Twitter links).
Dave_Gershman
One down…
jt24
$200 million to go
KeithLawSucksInStl
And Jeter wants most of it
jt24
touchƩ
venn177
The best to ever do it. Getting a contract he deserves.
Pool Messi
No-brainer
InvalidUserID
Well that was pain-free.
ugotrpk3113
Dude has ONE pitch and still dominates. Unreal.
Hiram
3 CUTTER 4 SEAM AND NOW 2 SEAM
Jason_F
Except only one of those pitches gets thrown 85% of the time.
MB923
Usually the NY Daily news is full of it but hopefully they aren’t here
Do not be surprised if this deal doesn’t go through though.
AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs
Why would it not go through? Mariano is bigger than Jeter, and wanted to make it as quick and painless as possible.
Sean
When is the NY Daily News “full of it”? I live in NYC, I read the Daily News every single day and everything they report is mostly accurate. For what reason would the deal not go through? Mo is the greatest closer in the history of baseball, he’s played his entire career for the greatest franchise in the history of baseball and he’s going to retire here.
You’re smoking some pretty powerful stuff if you really believe the deal won’t go through. It’s done.
MB923
I didn’t say it wouldn’t. I said don’t be surprised if it doesn’t. I do hope it is true though.
AJCBE
[Insert derogatory Jeter comment here]
Septhinox
Only one?
venn177
“Rivera recently received a three-year offer worth more money from a rival team, but wanted to stay in pinstripes, even if it meant accepting a deal for fewer guaranteed years and less money.”
Jeter, take note.
elclashcombo
Was just going to say the same thing but you beat me to it.
Tiffs
I don’t think Jeter will get the opportunity to turn down more years and money than what the Yankees have already offered him.
KeithLawSucksInStl
Agreed. What team besides the Yanks would pay an aging SS more that 15 million a year? That’s why Cashman basically said “Ok, go look at the open market, you won’t find a better deal.”But, since we’re in a Sandman thread, it’s a lot of $, but the guy can still bring it. Good for him.
Vmmercan
What team besides the Yankees has Derek Jeter as an aging shortstop?
Vmmercan
What team besides the Yankees has Derek Jeter as an aging shortstop?
adammyst
I can’t believe someone offered more money to an FA than the Yanks……
Guest
$51mm over three years to be exact. I’m dying to know which team made that offer.
josh3302
Posted twice my bad
josh3302
I will guess that it was the Orioles
counciltucky
Possibly. I’m thinking the Angels.
Dylan
How bout Rangers? They could’ve moved Feliz into the rotation then….
Guest
They don’t have that kind of money for a player in that position.
Dave_Gershman
Duh…Red Sox
Guest
No chance, especially with Bard and Papellbon. I’ll throw it out there, but maybe the Angels prior to signing Takahashi.
Dave_Gershman
Fellas, I was kidding…
But seriously, I honestly think it was the Braves or the Nationals. Call me crazy, just what I think.
The reason I don’t think it was the Angels is because I think they’d rather have Crawford and Soriano, then Rivera.
MB923
“from a rival team,”. Do the Nationals, or Braves for that matter, fit this description?
If I had to pick on who it was, I’d say the Angels.
Dave_Gershman
You’ve never heard of the famous Yankees Nationals rivalry? Its called the ” I-95 switch along the way and cross the Delaware river through Baltimore series”
Come on bro
NYBravosFan10
its easier to head back through harlem/spanish harlem and when you hit Jersey, go into pennsylvania and travel south š
pollbuster2
Gee, I wonder why Rivera wouldn’t want to finish his career with the Nationals?
Guest
Not really the Braves style imo.
erm016
Braves don’t have the money to offer him that much (if it’s 52mil) there’s no way in hell that’s the Braves.
MB923
Don’t have the money? Aren’t they owned by Liberty Media?
NYBravosFan10
FINALLY!!!!!! SOMEONE PROMPTED ME INTO THIS!!! Liberty Media fyi doesn’t care about the team. They never shell out any money so we can nab good players. That’s why it’s such a huge deal when the Bravos sign big players somehow. The Braves work with about 85-95 million a year but we could be much better off if Liberty Media would just cough it up…I want Ted Turner back…
MB923
Maybe when it was still in business, he was still more into Dubya C Dubya Wresslin
erm016
Yes they are, but it’s just a business purchase to them. Buy low, sell high if they go high, don’t invest anything, etc. The ability is there, but they don’t invest in the team.
Kris Noble
Certainly wasn’t the Braves
Dave_Gershman
But I was right!
Guest
By sheer luck..
Dave_Gershman
Pretty much
ugotrpk3113
I could see the Angels, that would make sense to me.
AmericanMovieFan
I could see it being the Mets, what with K-Rod in personal disarray and his odd contract situation and the Wilpons’ penchant for overspending.
Guest
Could be and probably the only team other than the Angels that could be taken seriously for this one.
MB923
That’s my pick too. But we shall wait and see, of course it can easily be a lie lol
Dave_Gershman
Told yall!
MB923
Ken Rosenthal on his latest Twitter posted that it coudl be untrue.
Dax
can we completely believe what his agent says though i mean come on.
yanksno1
This is how the Jeter negotiations should have gone. Why’d each side talk so much there, and nothing here?
SpaldingBalls
This is how a classy player operates. He doesn’t use the media, and stays with a team that has done everything for him. He got money he undoubtedly deserved (at least according to the market, a closer is never worth more than 10 million IMO), and played were he wanted to. A lot like what I feel like Paul Konerko will do, and why he won’t be a Red Sox or a Oriole. That is what any player at their age that has made that much money over their career should do, though there’s one who refuses to do it.
Redsoxn8tion
Lay of Jeter. He deserves every penny of what he wants. He brought the Yankees several championships
mwach1
sarcasm?
nictonjr
Year 1 Before Jeter : 1,675,556
Year 0 Before Jeter : 1,705,263
Year 1 With Jeter : 2,250,877
Year 2 With Jeter : 2,580,285
Year 3 WJ + 2,955,193 – 4,298,655
At its peak, attendance up 2,600,000 mil from the year before Jeter’s debut. That’s a lot of people jumping on the band wagon since 1996…
YanksFanSince78
Yeah but using your logic who is to say it was because of Jorge Posada?
Tiffs
I bet making the playoffs 15/16 years helped those attendance figures too.
Steve_in_MA
Well, both Jetes and Posada had lots to do with making the playoffs all those years.
MB923
Posada has had an awful postseason career
Sean
You’re making it sound like Jeter single-handedly won multiple championships for the Yankees. It’s a team game, one player does not win a championship – ever. I’m a diehard Yankee fan and I love Derek as much as the next guy, but he’s not single-handedly responsible for anything – except the billions and billions of dollars he’s brought the Yankees in revenue from the sale of Jeter-labeled merchandise and the leadership he brings to the clubhouse as the Yankee captain.
He should be paid what he’s asking for simply for those reasons.
yg49
He didn’t bring any more to the Yankees from Jeter labeled merchandise than he brought to any other team. Merchandise is MLB licensed and the money gets split between all 30 teams, no matter who’s name is on the back.
yg49
So did Yogi Berra….doesnt mean I want HIM catching next season.
Mat
Maybe the bigger contract talk is a bluff to get Jeter to sign.
elbaumel
I bet the “rival team” was a lousy team with money coming off the payroll. Hey for all we know it coulda been the Pirates
MB923
Bill Mazeroski would have advised against that. He prob sat down with the Pirates front office and said gee if only one of our guys could do what I did off of Ralph Terry and maybe we have a 1 in a billion chance to do it against Mariano.
Coincidentally, he was inducted in the HOF in 2001, the same year Mariano uhhhhhhhh…..okay ends there.
iceman199
In other news, water is wet!
NYBravosFan10
LOL!!!!!!!!
NYBravosFan10
LOL!!!!!!!!
elbaumel
Maybe it was the Rangers wanting to give the Yanks an “f you” b/c they know they’re gonna buy Cliff Lee in the upcoming weeks. (They could move Feliz into the rotation— Although realistically I doubt it was them)
Guest
It just occurred to me this is something Kenny Williams would do, especially trying to one up both Minnesota and Detroit. Had to be Angels, Met’s or W Sox.
Steve_in_MA
Don’t doubt for a moment that the BoSox were in the mix here. If Mariano agreed, we could have non-tendered Paps at a savings of about $11MM per season and had THE BEST closer of all times.
elbaumel
THE THIRD TEAM WAS THE RED SOX!
twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman
elbaumel
twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman
tdot32
I know Mariano’s the best closer who ever lived n’ all, but surely 30 million over 2 years is a bit pricey for a 40 year old reliever?
mrmoss
15 mil for the greatest closer of all time is fare
11 mil for Papelbum.now that is pricey for a overated idiot
YanksFanSince78
Rough avg’s
1.75 era, 0.80 whip, 65 IP, 4 hrs and 10 walks averaged in the last 3 seasons.
3/$30 mil is a fair deal for the Yanks and not a huge commitment by their standards.
tdot32
no reliever should be paid that kind of money to pitch an inning per game. you’re spending all the money on mo and you wonder why the yankees have a horrible bullpen. i agree he’s been very effective still but you have to fix the rest of your pen as well or else you’ll give up more oppurtunities than mo will get to save.
YanksFanSince78
You have ZERO idea what you’re talking about. Mo is the best thing about our pen and his salary isn’t keeping the Yanks from signing anyone else. Maybe your logic would apply if they were the Marlins trying to sign Mo for 2/$30 but they aren’t.
And the Yanks had one of the best bullpens in the AL.
Relief staff FIP was 5th overall in the AL @ 4.06, ERA was 3rd @ 3.47, LOB % was 2nd @ 77%, K/9 of 7.7/9 was 4th highest, BB/9 were the 4th lowest lowest @ 3.61/9 and the 2nd lowest BaBIP @ .276.
Use some facts next time bro. Fangraphs, Baseball-reference, etc.
NYBravosFan10
Yes he does know what he’s talking about. Give me the numbers from the entirety of the MLB and we’ll go from there. The Braves (not homering, it’s true), Giants, Padres and Nationals had pretty good bullpens. Joba Chamberlain gave up more runs than someone who just ate too much chili. But i’ll give you the benefit of the doubt here.
YanksFanSince78
Hmmmmmmm…Giants, Padres, Braves and Nationals…..what do they have in common? Of yeah….National Leage teams. And I said “And the Yanks had one of the best bullpens in the AL”. And then I went on to provide FACTS (Knowledge or information based on real occurrences: an account based on fact;) to back up what I said.
His Opinion-Yanks have a horrible bullpen
The World’s Facts- The Yanks’ bullpen ranked top 5 in ERA, FIP, Left on base %, highest K/9 and lowest BB/9 among all AL teams.
NYBravosFan10
introducing the NL teams was the whole point dingleberry!!! No, they weren’t horrible but you only listed off AL teams!!! Throwing NL teams in there would bring the Yankees down a smidge because the 4 teams I listed off had killer bullpens as well and last time I checked, the NL/AL thing isn’t all that different when it comes to bullpens like it is for hitters and starting pitchers.
YanksFanSince78
Dude….you’re useless. The NL has a pitcher and no DH so I would expect their numbers to be a little better. I did an apples to apples comparison and bottom line is the Yanks had a top 5 bullpen among all of the AL teams….west, east and central.
And no, introducing the National lge is irrelvant and it wasn’t HIS point. HIS point was to say they had a horrible bullpen. Let’s assume that all 4 of those National lge teams have better bullpens. That would still put the Yanks top 10 across the board among all 30 teams and far, far away from being horrible. Stop being a schmuck.
MB923
National League relivers had a higher ERA than American League relivers this year
3.89 ERA for AL
3.98 for NL
Starters, way different story
AL- 4.27
NL- 4.07
NYBravosFan10
I’m pretty sure the “facing a pitcher” thing is pretty negligible. While it does happen, bullpen guys don’t face pitchers as much as they would a bench guy who might be a DH caliber player if it were the AL. And don’t call me useless either, there’s no need for that, just trying to have a discussion here. If you were offended by “dingleberry” than I apologize.
NYBravosFan10
Yes he does know what he’s talking about. Give me the numbers from the entirety of the MLB and we’ll go from there. The Braves (not homering, it’s true), Giants, Padres and Nationals had pretty good bullpens. Joba Chamberlain gave up more runs than someone who just ate too much chili. But i’ll give you the benefit of the doubt here.
Rays Fan 33
look what it does to the market come on dude its not always just about nyy look what guys like jenks are gonna command now dont be so blind to the mlb
YanksFanSince78
Hahahaha…Jenks was just non-tendered. What Mo makes was the same as it was last year and will have ZERO relevance to what Jenks will earn….AFTER BEING NON-TENDERED.
MO = Good. Jenks = Not so good.
NYBravosFan10
MO=Better than good Jenks=Was good, but took a nose dive at some point after interleague.
EL CABALLO 626
It was the Red Sox who offered the contract to Rivera. No Yankee players ever like to go to the Red Sox, just ask Bernie Williams
jt24
or we could talk to david wells….
YanksFanSince78
Yeah Wells was a hired gun. It’s different when a lifer goes to Boston.
jt24
Don Baylor ( not a lifer but still a big name) or david cone
Vmmercan
Ramiro Mendoza?
Vmmercan
Ramiro Mendoza?
EL CABALLO 626
But he went to San Diego first so he doesn’t count
MB923
Wells didn’t go straight from NY to Boston. He also went to Toronto and Chicago and San Diego afterwards.
MB923
Andy Pettitte agrees also.
NYBravosFan10
yeah it does tend to be the other way around huh? Ruth, Damon, Boggs…
zach_puke
and dont forget the amazing mike myers
wtk
Alan Embree, Mark Bellhorn…
-wtk
Vmmercan
And Alan Embree
Vmmercan
And Alan Embree
Slopeboy
All bow before the King. The king approaches!! Yay!!
mrmoss
Who is going to be in the pen with Mo
Robertson
Joba the Bloba
Mitre
Logan
Vmmercan
Rivera, Robertson, Joba, Mitre, Logan, and then potentially any of the approximately 6,000 arms the Yankees have in their system….Or a FA…Could always be a FA
Vmmercan
Rivera, Robertson, Joba, Mitre, Logan, and then potentially any of the approximately 6,000 arms the Yankees have in their system….Or a FA…Could always be a FA
elbaumel
Red Sox and Angels were two of three teams that made 3 year offers. Heyman trying to figure out the third
ugotrpk3113
I can’t make sense of this if this is true. Why the hell would management offer 3 YEARS for a closer who is 40, but not pony up the extra 3 million to lock up Victor when you needed a middle of the order bat AND a bat who rakes against LHP?
Doesn’t make sense… I would be pissed if this was true.
YanksFanSince78
Paps is struggling and signing Mo weakens the Yanks. What’s hard to understand?
I can’t honestly see the Sox demoting Paps though. That would be a harsh thing for Paps to swallow. Maybe they would’ve traded him?
ugotrpk3113
If you operate your franchise under the premise that you need to make a signing to make your competitor weaker, you’re not doing it for the right reasons.
YanksFanSince78
That isn’t the way anyone is operating but it serves a dual purpose. Mo is kind of a big deal among closers in case you haven’t heard and obviously Boston isn’t satisfied with their status quo.
Steve_in_MA
Non-tendered, because he is arb eligible for 1 more year. He would have become an F/A.
YanksFanSince78
Or they could’ve traded him as well.
Rays Fan 33
would you trust paps in ny honestly once rivera is retired in a few years look how bad he does in division games sorry bard should be the closer if it wasnt for the salary he is the better pitcher
YanksFanSince78
Huh? When did I say I wanted the Yanks to sign Paps?
MB923
Well he’s still one of the best in the game and hasn’t shown much in declining. I mean didn’t the Phillies sign 45 year old Jamie Moyer to a 2 year contract (yes i know not for $30 million) but sitll.
elbaumel
Heyman confirmed it. Sox offered 3 yrs @ 51mil & Angels offered 3 yrs (not sure of the amount) And yea he’s getting up there in age, but he’s still got it
yg49
To drive up the price for the Yankees?
timmah_55
I’d go with the White Sox being the third team considering that they have the money and just non-tendered Jenks.
Guest
I’m hearing Red Sox now. Anyone else? It’s being said by other commentators on RAB. What a bunch of baffoons up there. Theo Epstein really has no idea what he is doing if this is true and I never want to hear another argument about it if so…
Dave_Gershman
Thats what I told you before but you shot my idea down.
Guest
This brings Epstein’s stupidity to a whole new level. There was no logic in agreeing with you on your initial guess.
MB923
It wouldn’t be stupid for Epstein to do. Rivera is better than anyone in the Red Sox pen MAYBE with the exception of Bard.
Steve_in_MA
For the Sox, its really a no-lose situation. Either you get the best closer in baseball and non-tender Paps, or you spur Mariano to sign back with the Yanks at his desired years-dollars, taking them out of the closer and position player markets. I seriously doubt we offered $51MM, but I’m sure it was very substantial ($45MM+). I would not be surprised if we made a 3 yr./$17MM per season offer to Jetes as well. Obviously, we’d hope he wouldn’t take it, but it should make a deal get done at a level a little above what Hank & Hal have been offering.
YanksFanSince78
Interesting thing is, reports said the Yanks offered 1/$15 and that Mo wanted 2/$36. If it happens at 2/$30 then basically the Yanks kicked in an extra year. Whether or not that was going to happen regardless of the other offers is the question.
EL CABALLO 626
You can’t blame Theo, Rivera is better than any other reliever on the Red Sox, yes even Papelbon and Bard
Guest
I knew someone would say that. Yeah he’s the best in the game, who wouldn’t want him, yada, yada. There are so many other glaring issues with that team, that he has the audacity to throw out a three year offer for a “luxury?” I shouldn’t even be mad, but if I was a Red Sox fan, I’d be livid right now and calling for Epstein to get his head out of his ***
Pool Messi
Do you even know what the terms of the 3-yr offer were to be calling for anyone’s head? For all we know it could be for an AAV of $10-12 which is close to what Papelbon will make. If Rivera accepts you simply non-tender Papelbon. If he doesn’t, you hope at least the Yankees will be forced to add to their offer.
Guest
I don’t care if it was for $10mm per over 3 years, 2/3 of the Sox OF is in parts at the moment. They have no 3rd baseman, a crappy SS, 2 weak catchers, currently no bench and other areas of the bullpen that have needs. Not a third closer. I’m sorry, but I see no logic in this whatsoever. None..
Pool Messi
I suppose you missed the part where I said “non-tender Papelbon”
It’s usually a good practice to read carefully before making a comment.
Guest
Dude, seriously..
Ben_Cherington
“They have no 3rd baseman, a crappy SS, 2 weak catchers, currently no bench and other areas of the bullpen that have needs. Not a third closer. I’m sorry, but I see no logic in this whatsoever. None.. ”
talking about the sox or the yanks?
and why would theo not try to make his pen better? offer a contract to a great free agent….yeah of course why would any GM other than cashman do that? the audacity!
mantistoboggan47
He was talking about the Red Sox.
Ben_Cherington
i know..but they have a lot of the same issues.
broke down aging 3rd
crappy ss (whom i like)
2 weak catchers
and bad bullpen
1st baseman who puts up identical numbers to ortiz for twice the money…
yeah the sox have all the problems!
YanksFanSince78
Haha…broken down 3B who in his worst year hit 30 hrs and 125 rbi, 2 weak catchers 1 of which is one of the top 5 prospects in baseball and the other won’t be C next year, a 1B who provides great defense @ 1B as opposed to Ortiz who is a DH and in his WORST year posted 33 hrs and 108 RBI with a bad foot and a bad thumb and a bullpen that was top 5 across the board in ERA, FIP, K/9, fewest BB/9 and LOB%. Wow…..I feel like this is FOX news where anyone can say anything regardless of whether or not it’s true.
Ben_Cherington
I know! Just messing with Century. All he does is bash the sox every single time he gets a chance. I know the yanks are good…but you do have to admit there is starting to be a cause for concern for arod, jeter, posada and mo. Theyre starting to age.
Rays Fan 33
that is why your not a general manager does trying to weaken another team come to play at all you have to open your eyes more to stuff really.you seem such a homer it is sad try something new in life that you can succeed in actually
TreyIII
“They have no 3rd baseman, a crappy SS, 2 weak catchers, currently no bench and other areas of the bullpen that have needs. Not a third closer. I’m sorry, but I see no logic in this whatsoever. None..”
Is the season starting tomorrow? Do they have to fill each position in order of highest need? Relax.
YanksFanSince78
Stop trying to inflame the Sox fans dude. We all know who you root for…haha
Guest
Sorry buddy, but as a businessman, I try to use logic in my daily activities and I can’t find one ounce of how this would makes sense. I am not trying to get Sox fans riled up, but I am also trying to prove my point that the management of the team is not being handles well. Its not like I’m the only person who thinks this.
Ben_Cherington
you are
YanksFanSince78
a) My guess is that they view Mo as an upgrade to Paps and would rather have two years of Mo mentoring Bard than 1 year of Paps mentoring Bard or getting rid of Paps and moving Bard to closer in 2011.
b) Paps will probably make about $12 mil in arb for 2011. Paying Mo an extra $5 mil is not a stretch.
c) You fill a need and severly….SEVERELY wound a top competitor in your division. A Mo-less Yanks and a Crawford, Pena and Soriano-less Rays narrows the gaps between a healthy Red Sox team and everyone else.
d) Sox are not cash strapped and if they were to sign Mo for 3/$51 would not keep them from filling needs at 3B, C (which is basically filled) or the OF.
Not sure how those factors don’t strike you as being logical.
GoAwayNow
Well said.
GoAwayNow
Well said.
BoSoxSam
Thank you.
YanksFanSince78
a) My guess is that they view Mo as an upgrade to Paps and would rather have two years of Mo mentoring Bard than 1 year of Paps mentoring Bard or getting rid of Paps and moving Bard to closer in 2011.
b) Paps will probably make about $12 mil in arb for 2011. Paying Mo an extra $5 mil is not a stretch.
c) You fill a need and severly….SEVERELY wound a top competitor in your division. A Mo-less Yanks and a Crawford, Pena and Soriano-less Rays narrows the gaps between a healthy Red Sox team and everyone else.
d) Sox are not cash strapped and if they were to sign Mo for 3/$51 would not keep them from filling needs at 3B, C (which is basically filled) or the OF.
Not sure how those factors don’t strike you as being logical.
Garrett
Note to Jeter: Insert foot in mouth…
jwtate4
My question is this…if there is a team that offered more money, should MLBPA step in and tell him to take the money. If I recall, everyone says that MLBPA wants the players to take the biggest contract regardless of what the player wants or the team that makes the offer. I hear that talk especially when it comes to Cliff Lee/Rangers/Yankees negotiations.
ugotrpk3113
I’m guessing it’s different with older players who have been with a particular organization for a long period of time.
It’s one thing to want Lee to take the most money. It’s another to ask Rivera, a life-long Yankee, to take an offer with a different team for extra cash at this point in his career.
jwtate4
I see your point and am sure you are right. I just think it’s really weak that it’s okay for certain players to do it but force others to go places where they may not really “want” to go. But thanks for the thoughts
Andre
Err I don’t think thats true at all, ever heard of the home town discounts and alll? MLBPA will not make the player take whatever team offered highest, it’s up to the player to decide where he wants to play. That would be unethical to do
jwtate4
Do you remember A-Rod offering to redo his deal to leave Texas and the union stepping in and saying “I don’t think so…” I know it’s not the same but my point is that they stick their nose when it comes to money. As for hometown discounts…save that pep talk for Jeter and not me…LOL
Andre
I’m not going to be turning on Jeter like everyone is because
A. Jeter hasn’t said anything it’s been all his agent and we can’t always judge players intentions based on what their agent says, agents job is to try and get their client the most money and therefore their agents will say many things.
B.I’m pretty sure Jeter was more concerned with length than money since he wants to play a while longer and really wants to stay with the Yankees.
C. Hank and Cash did say somethings that they should have just kept quiet, I understand they don’t want to offer a lot but there are things they could have kept their mouths shut.
and
D. Media makes everything seem worse than it actually is
YanksFanSince78
a) Close was the one that spoke first by saying he was “befuddled” by how the Yanks were treating Jeter.
b) Cashman didn’t make public the offer they made. MLB central office has to be alerted to offers made from teams to players so that’s where the leak of the offer came from.
c) Players and agents are not obligated to notify mlb office as to their contract demands so unless player/agent or team opens their mouth then most of their demands go unmentioned.
Once the word was out that Jeter wanted $24 mil x 5 or 6 years then I think the public became aware that if anyone had cause to feel “befuddled” it should’ve been Cashman.
Andre
Actually Cashman came out first speaking of Jeter saying he didnt think Jeter wanted to return to the team as well as saying he should test out the market which is a bit offense, after that Jeters agent made a coment like he should and I don’t disagree with it.
Jamme
Actually you are wrong. Close was first with the “Baffled” comments. Its not even close, no pun intended.
Andre
No matter key word Close not Jeter, Close
Jamme
Jeter never likes to open his mouth and say anything. He avoids confrontation at all costs. And Close is a representation of Jeter, just like Cashman is a representation of the Yankees.
Let’s look at it this way, didn’t Arod get killed when his opt out was announced after his MVP season in 07. Guess what, Boras was the one that opted out, but Arod still gets the blame for that. Same concept, only difference is your dealing with pretty boy can’t do anything wrong Derek Jeter…
Andre
No matter key word Close not Jeter, Close
YanksFanSince78
You are completey wrong.
Nov 18th- Hal says negotiations shouldn’t get personal.
Nov 20th- Word is out on the 3/$45 mil proposal leaked thru mlb office. Cashman doesn’t confirm or deny.
Nov 21st- Casey Close says negotiations are “baffling”
Nov 24th- Cashman says he want Jeter to stay but should look around the lge for other offers and test the market.
Andre
I’m pretty sure the Yankees were the first ones to start saying things to the press maybe not exactly the test free agent market, also Hank did state negotiations could get messy. Plus no one knows whats going on behind the scenes but everyone decides to jump on the hate Jeter bandwagon all of a sudden which is quite annoying. I’m not saying Jeter is right nor am I saying the Yankees are, the simple solution is everyone keep it shut because no one knows whats going on behind the scenes. WHEN everything is settled and more is known then I say speak whatever especially since Jeter is going to end up in the Yankees things just don’t get done quickly, plus businesses is always like this things can get messy sometimes theres more behind the scenes we don’t know about.
If the boss was alive things would be much different than they are right now
Rays Fan 33
do you think jeter should do what arod did with boras and do the negotiations on his own its obvious the agents arent always needed a guy can negotiate a deal for hiimself sheffield did and he did well
dickylarue
There’s this thing called a period ( . ) Feel free to use it.
Andre
They did speak with each other recently so that might be a reason why the latest news is that both parties are closer to a deal
YanksFanSince78
Big difference between a FA accepting a NEW deal and a player reworking a contract he signed 3 years earlier to make himself more appealing to a team. Arod was a FA and the situation was different.
YanksFanSince78
MLBPA can say all they want but they can’t force anyone to do anything. It’s like being Charles Ringle in front of the Ethics Com. All talk…
Whowonthe2009WorldSeries
“#redsox tried to steal rivera with 3-year offer, im hearing. 2 more teams also offered 3. but rivera is close to $30-mil deal with #yankees”
Just Tweeted by: SI_JohnHeyman
AthleticsFan
This is where the Panamanian Jesus belongs.2 years 30 million damn that’s a deal.
YanksFanSince78
I have a question and maybe someone can answer it. If team “A” offers a deal to a FA and they accept, barring a failed health exam, can they retract it if the deal is accepted w/in a reasonable time (72 hrs) ?
AthleticsFan
Yes. I’m pretty sure
j6takish
Who?
bonestock94
lol redsox fail
Rays Fan 33
lol life fail for you
bonestock94
The lols keep coming
BaronOfBacon
The Red Sox and two other mystery teams offered more money and years, huh? It reeks of a ploy to try and drive the price up on the Yankees for Rivera.
Problem for them is Mo seems perfectly content where he is now. In the bullpen for the New York Yankees.
slider32
Hello, we all know that Rivera was staying with the Yanks. He didn’t want to go to another club, one down two to go for the Yanks. 15 mill is alot even for the best closer of all time.
NYBravosFan10
I love it. The guys throws at most 15 pitches 3 days (on average) a week and gets 15million a year haha
MB923
Yeah what about Brad Lidge when he made $12 million in 2009. Went from 100% pefect in 2008 to maybe what like 5% chance of getting a save in 2009? If Lidge was worth $12 mil in 2009, Rivera was prob worth $100 mil that year
/sarcasm of course about the worth part.
Vmmercan
To be fair, he’s extremely economical.
Oscar Mejia
Sounds fishy to me, around the same amount being offered to Jeter. By Rivera earning two year 15 per, jeter should earn an easy three year 18 per.
Jeter physically has to work 7-9 times per game more than Rivera. Bottom line the news of Rivera’s contract and its timing of the whole loyalty, sacrifice story that come along with it seem’s too coincidental.
Sorry Jeter, best bet will be to get a maximum of three years 18 per including all incentives. “An Icon is only as important as your definition of IT” (Oscar Mejia), and those that are in-charge of signing your checks seem reluctant to allow Cashman to offer you a contract fit for the ICON as i would define it.
Pool Messi
So funny reading these comments from a week ago again.
Ex. “lol red sox fail” or “This brings Epstein’s stupidity to a whole new level.”
nictonjr
Is it 10 days ago already?? What’s next?? Cashman going to announce he’ll be at the winter meetings last week.
Can’t wait for January when the Yanks announce the Russell martin signing…
SierraM363
Cashman had to go 2 years because of Boston’s offer. It’s still a better deal than what they gave Jeter.