The White Sox will claim Manny Ramirez with the intention of acquiring him once he's placed on waivers by the Dodgers, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times tweets that GM Kenny Williams is pushing all his chips on getting Ramirez, according to an MLB source. Manny has not yet been placed on waivers, based on reports, even though the Dodgers gained the ability to do so yesterday.
With a .540 winning percentage, the White Sox are the first AL contending team in the waiver order if Ramirez makes it past the NL unclaimed. Rosenthal says the Rays and Rangers are also interested in Manny.
Ramirez has $4.46MM left on his contract at the moment, though about $3.34MM of that is deferred without interest. Assuming Manny approves the assignment, the Dodgers might be willing to dump his contract just for salary relief.
Ramirez would certainly provide a boost to the White Sox as their designated hitter, if he can stay healthy. He's hitting .312/.404/.508 in 223 plate appearances this year, a down year in rate stats only by his lofty standard.
Wouldnt he have to clear all NL teams first…? Jumping the gun IMO.
i doubt any NL team will claim him… his d fense in LF is not good…. AL is better for him…
Every time he goes out to LF he winds up getting injured and I’m sure other teams have noticed, he’s going to an AL team to DH
Wow…between Ozzie and Manny, there could be some serious drama in the White Sox dugout.
they could get Carlos Zambrano and Milton Bradley too for nothing, if they really want to spice things up.
As a braves fan shouldn’t you throw in Escobar in to that bad seed mix as well? lol
Escobar was no where near what zambrano and bradley have done… so I do not understand what you are trying to say?
It’s a joke because when Escobar was dealt braves fans were pleased because he came with the tag of being difficult and a clubhouse cancer.. notice the ‘lol’ at the end my post that insinuates a joke and sarcasm.
haha, indeed
Perfect DH.
San Francisco will claim him. They seem to have a 7 player outfield already. What harm could it do to add another?
4.5 back of the division, 9.5 back of the wild cart.. With the way the twins have played lately this won’t make a difference. . Just let him go so the rays can get him.
it would make sense, he would be an instant boost to the sox line up, Manny in a hitters park again would be nice. And we have all seen how he plays on new teams, I’m not saying he is going to do what he did for the dodgers last year but you never know, manny still is a force and forces opposing pitchers to game plan more than mark kotsay and andruw jones…anything is better than those two.
Oh I’m not saying it won’t improve the team, I’m just saying too little too late. If they wanted a chance they should have added an impact bat at the non waiver deadline
They tried to, and couldn’t get one at the price they were willing to pay.
and because of it they let the twins run away with the division.
run away with the division? there are still like 40 games to play and 3 more between the sox and twins and they are only 4.5 back..the division is still close.
Okay, enough talking. lets bet. I’ll give you odds.
sox still have better pitching than the Twins. the Sox still host the Twins for a three game set. the Twins have a three-man rotation. the odds are at about 16% for the Sox…not good, but not a pipe dream.
It’s not impossible no, but the twins have played much better since the all star game then the sox, why should we anticipate complete reversal of success and failure down the stretch?
Many people including myself counted the Sox out in June also before they went on their big run. Then the Twins went on/still are on a big run. It can happen and has happened before. Having Manny should help as in the past week alone it seems the Sox have lost 4-5 1 run games because they have been terrible in scoring situations.
I’m not doubting that the white sox can put a run together, I’m doubting that the twins will slump enough to give the sox an opening, unless they have a met like break down, which seems highly unlikely
Look at it in terms of numbers..
Twins -37 games remaining, Sox -38 games remaining
Even if the twins play a very mediocre .500 down the stretch 19-18.. The Sox would need to go 24-14 just to tie.
you realize earlier this year the sox went 25-5 right? its possible and adding manny to the line up without having to give up prospects would help like crazy, unless the twins get Justin back soon and he can play to he potential then there is still a chance…but untill that happens the twins pitching will catch up with them AGAIN….they had a hot streak earlier this year untill thier pitching caught up to them…
they went 25-5 against the worst of the NL (ok, Atl sweep was impressive, but they got a week long minor league warmup), what’s your point? these are the dog days and the end looks closer and closer when you’re behind…messes with the mind
sox still have a 3 game against them in chicago. counting anyone out yet is foolish.
You say foolish, i say realistic
or a Tiger-like breakdown…
Um, maybe because that’s how baseball goes….on August 7, the Sox were 1.5 games up. Minnesota went on a 6-14 stretch at one point, and the Sox went on a 30-6 run. Teams ebb and flow.
The pitching is a wash. We needed Peavy in order to have the better rotation. Liriano, Pavano and Duensing are just as good as Danks, Floyd and Buehrle. The rest is a wash.
Good luck KW. It will be a waste of money IMO. Though the money isn’t that significant so the downside is diminished.
Well, Kenny Williams might get his man. No NL team would want to claim him w/ his horrible defense.
So Manny’s gonna replace Juan Pierre…AGAIN?
Nope, Manny will be replacing Mark Kotsay.
Try again..mark kotsay
They’re all so serious, I thought it was funny.
Wasted money and salaries aside, it would be fun to see the Tigers claim Manny out of spite just to piss of the White Sox.
Tigers are trying to shed salary right now, and unless they wanted first crack at resigning him next season, it would just be wasted money as you put it.
I could see the White Sox resigning him too.
Of course. Kenny Williams and Omar Miniya are the only two GM’s that are always going to be interested in this guy.
Who is Rosenthal’s source that says the Dodgers will put him on waivers? His car? Maybe his briefcase? Or did he really put in the legwork and get his garden hose to tell him?
I could’ve reported the Dodgers are gonna put him on waivers its almost common knowledge at this point
It’s not “common knowledge.” It’s a rumor. It is always mentioned in news reports in passive tense. “It is believed…” “The Dodgers are expected to…” “The team is said to…” Show me where it’s attached to a source!
IF he came to the sox, if it is too late, he’ll sell some tickets. I’d go to some games to watch Manny in a sox uniform.
You’d have sold more with Thome in a Sox uniform.
Just sayin’…
not really….Thome wasn’t as popular as some think
Considering he was here for 4 years, I doubt they would have sold that many more Thome jerseys.
Plus, I stand by the fact that the only reason Thome is playing as well as he is, is because the sox didn’t resign him and he wanted to prove them wrong. That and the fact that he is that rare type of player with the ability to step up his game when injuries plague the team (i.e. morneau and hudson)
I know, I’m just going to go to my grave still smiling ear-to-ear about the walk-off Thome had against you guys.
As for his success this year, I think it’s actually pretty close to his performance in recent years, with the exception of an uptick in OPS. And that can easily be a product of him getting more rest. He’s always been a gamer – I find it doubtful he consciously performs better just to prove someone wrong.
Fair enough. We got our decisive Thome HR vs the twins in 2008, and you get yours in 2010.
From merely a white sox stand point, I feel that Kenny lets go of players and they always come back and rip the sox, Mags, Thomas, Crede, Thome. It is what it is. All player conciously perform better at certains points in their career, mainly their contract years. Usually it’s to prove something.
Either way, even though Thome is on the Twins, he still is a great player, and one of which I cannot force myself to root against.
Between you guys and the Indians, Thome has just murdered us over the years. I think the consensus here was signing him was a good deal, even if only to keep him on the bench and not having to face him a few dozen times a year. The fact he’s contributed is just a welcome bonus.
The frustration was, even when he was killing us, it’s just impossible not to like the guy.
Well I’d take Thome’s bomb in game 163 in 2008 over that luck shot a few weeks ago any day. Twins fans can have that regular season game walk off.
The taste of losing 163 at the Cell is still there. Trust me.
I still remember that cigar after Thome sent you guys home. I never thought I would have to bring it up to a Twins fan. Thanks for opening the door and setting it on a tee.
Manny and the White Sox….the ultimate dysfunctional player on the ultimate dysfunctional team. KW’s acquistions are made according to the particular imbalance of his mood at any given time. A few work. Many don’t. And he and his loudmouth live-for-himself manager have turned the Pale Hose into a circus of tumult. How can the players focus on winning there? There’s always some unneccessary nonsense going on perpetrated by the GM or manager. I say the move that needs to be made is to fire both of THEM.
manny has been described as a club house cancer by some and one of the best most fun club house guys by others….you put mannys crazy ass in with ozzies crazy ass it would make for some fun/ funny baseball
There’s always some unneccessary nonsense going on perpetrated by the bored chicago media
fixed
I smell an HBO series…
Yeah… Fire the 2 guys that brought Chicago their first World Series Championship in nearly 100 years. You’re right, those 2 have no idea what they’re doing!
wow. is this guy serious? A circus of tumult?
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sounds pretty cool actually
Manny and the White Sox….the ultimate dysfunctional player on the ultimate dysfunctional team. KW’s acquistions are made according to the particular imbalance of his mood at any given time. A few work. Many don’t. And he and his loudmouth live-for-himself manager have turned the Pale Hose into a circus of tumult. How can the players focus on winning there? There’s always some unneccessary nonsense going on perpetrated by the GM or manager. I say the move that needs to be made is to fire both of THEM.
I get the sneaking suspicion that Ned wont put Manny on waivers. From all accounts they are a team that is still “buying”. Which makes sense… it is Ned Colletti after all.
Agreed. The Dodgers would have moved Ted Lilly by now if they were waving the white flag.
Dodgers should try to resign Lilly, he wants to pitch for the Dodgers and he’s been money since putting on a Dodger uniform
Yeah I don’t see ANY reason to let Lilly leave. I was (wrongly) po’d when they didn’t offer Wolf anything at the end of the season; I say they keep Lilly* and THEN get a solid 1-2 guy*.
*= WTF am I thinking, as long as the McCourts are in the picture?
how many 1-2 guys do you want? With Lilly, it’d be 3…
I want FIVE. =)
Haha, don’t we all!
Well as a Tiger fan I hope the sox do get him, and then resign him for an additional 2-3 years in the offseason.
No one from the central is going to make it past the first round this year..so by all means, trade away talent and/or throw some money out the door š
wow. typical answer from fans of a team that are 9.5 back.
Easy bucky…it was said in good humor, hence the smiley face š
Although…re: no one from the Central is built to last in the playoffs- thats been my stance since preseason ’10, and last fall BEFORE the tigers flopped out of the division title. None of the top three are good enough, and thats a realistic opinion…unbiased.
Twins and Sox are playing .500 ball over the last two weeks, Twins are about to get swept by the Rangers (who I would argue is weaker than the Yankees) and the Sox ALMOST lost a series to the Orioles (!) last night, and very well might end up losing it today.
Anyone that thinks Manny coming to Chicago is going to be THE missing piece to carry them to another world title is probably looking at the glass half full, maybe a little more than they ought to.
For the second time in two years, a team that was somehow counting on a combination of Juan Pierre and Andruw Jones for offensive production goes out and gets Manny Ramirez to help right the ship. Can’t say I thought that would be a scenario I’d ever see play out again after the last time…
Good observation. I wish I wasn’t laughing so friggin hard!
…actually, after that, aren’t you surprised Andruw would be on ANY team at all two years later?
Considering the money situation from the first time with LA and this time with CHI, is it that shocking? Jones is making 1/30 of what he did in LA and Pierre is making maybe a third. You win some gambles and you lose some others. I think for $500K, Jones’ production was worth it.
It’s shocking to me that Ozzie and Kenny saw fit to enter the season with a DH platoon of Kotsay/Jones, yes.
Jones being on a team for $500K? Not shocking at all. Jones being on a team where he’s counted on for anything close to regular production? Yes.
Either way… before the season / during the season / after the season.. we can all agree that a Kotsay/Jones/Vizquel DH platoon will be / is / was an awful idea.
Agreed 100%
Technically Pierre is still making the same amount as before. The cash is just coming from different places. Jones is also still making about 3 million from the Dodgers this year as part of his buyout. But technically neither player is worth more than what you can get from a league average player making the minimum.
I wouldn’t go that far. Pierre’s range in left makes him a plus defender (despite the lack of an arm), and while his .350ish OBP isn’t ideal for a leadoff hitter, it’s enough that his speed on the bases is a fairly significant asset. He’s worth more than a replacement player, for sure (specifically, 1.7 wins more this season if you’d like to get exact), but nothing spectacular.
Even Jones, for all his struggles, remains a valuable defender and can crush lefties (.520 SLG). Neither’s a great player, but neither is completely useless either.
Still, doesn’t change my stance that it’s ridiculous to have assumed both players to play a prominent role in a club’s offense this season.
hahahahaha. after a little bit of research…… I found that almost ALL of juan pierre’s number are better that denard span’s who is Minnesota’s leadoff hitter.
Dude are you trolling on purpose? Why bring up Span’s numbers unless you’re trying to flame a debate that shouldnt exist on this article?
So the Dodgers are responsible financially for the now potentially sweet platoon setup in Chicago?
LAD: “Does anyone have need for a fast little dude and homerun potential for minimal risk? How’s about a guy with some Gold Gloves on his wall. We will even cover the majority of the tab and throw in some sweet MannyWood memorabilia, a Joe Torre autographed 1st Edition, and a Michael Jordan autographed copy of Space Jam.”
Ozzie Guillen’s response: āI’ve got two people here that drive me crazy. They are all over me, and I’m like ‘Shut up, you drunk.’ It’s easy to make moves when you’re drunk.ā āThis kid can carry the team for two or three weeks,ā āWe had a chance a couple of times and we couldn’t pull the trigger. When you have an opportunity, you have to take advantage of it or you’re going to pay for it.ā
OK….have you seen Juan Pierres avg? or his mlb leading stolen base rate. What about even his risp avg with 2 outs? didnt think so.
Obviously MorneauVP didnt take a look at Pierre’s stats. Have you seen his avg? What about his avg with risp? No? Well then maybe youve seen his MLB leading stolen base total.
Dodgers need to place him on waivers already, I hope it’s not a pride thing of not realizing they are not making the Playoffs this year…Let him go Ned lol
What are “rate stats”? Never heard of that.
Anyone know?
Rate stats being your averages (BA, OBP, SLG) as opposed to counting stats (R, HR, RBI). Tim’s trying to compare the current year vs. prior years. It would be unfair to compare using counting stats since they are heavily influenced by the number of plate appearances, which are down this year due to his DL stints.
Rate stats indicate probablilty, whereas the other stats(HR, RBI and others) are just bulk statistics, stats that indicate opportunities more than anything else.
would be great for himself,the dodgers and the chi sox.would fit in nicely as their DH.
sick of kotsay sitting in the DH spot.Move to the AL would be great for mannys career and the rest of the year.good luck to the sox
I haven’t seen anything on here about what the Dodgers might get in return, its gotta be more about salary relief or we would have let Chicago have him on 7-31. Any thoughts?
I’m thinking it’d be a claim and take, nothing more.
Thats not entirely true simply because at the Trade Deadline, the Dodgers were a lot more in the post-season hunt then they are now. Remember the Dodgers traded for Ryan Theriot and Ted Lilly at the same time your saying they would be give Manny up. Not to mention Manny (at the time) was still on the DL and Kenny knows better than to trade for an old guy who no one knows if he was going to be the same when and if he came back.
People are forgetting that Manny really wants to play for Ozzie and I bet the Sox can resign him. Hopefully they have had enough with the great DH experiment..
Where did you hear this? Just curious
I dont see any way the Dodgers just give him away, and KW seems to be willing to actually trade a prospect for Manny. Manny as a DH will be scary…
If I were the Dodgers I would be giving him away as quickly as possible. You save 5 million bucks for 1 month? No brainer to get rid of an aging player who is now injury prone and does not produce like he had in the past.