I've compiled 2010 starting rotation spending by team; details can be found in this spreadsheet. Buyouts (for example, the $2.5MM the Dodgers owe to Jason Schmidt) and players not in 2010 rotations (Kei Igawa) are not included in the figures below. If a team is paying part of the salary of another club's starter, like in the case of Roy Halladay, that payment is accounted for only on the receiving team. If you find any errors, please contact us.
- Yankees – $63,157,650
- Cubs – $50,775,000
- Red Sox – $42,263,500
- Mets – $38,087,500
- White Sox – $36,200,000
- Cardinals – $35,925,000
- Giants – $33,850,000
- Tigers – $32,670,000
- Phillies – $31,805,000
- Braves – $31,467,000
- Angels – $29,965,000
- Royals – $25,110,000
- Reds – $24,700,000
- Astros – $23,916,000
- Rockies – $23,500,000
- Diamondbacks – $22,008,925
- Dodgers – $21,679,000
- Mariners – $20,550,000
- Brewers – $18,565,000
- Indians – $17,115,500
- Padres – $15,355,000
- Rangers – $14,181,090
- Orioles – $13,668,125
- Athletics – $13,210,000
- Twins – $12,790,000
- Nationals – $10,224,000
- Pirates – $10,013,500
- Marlins – $9,645,000
- Rays – $9,473,333
- Blue Jays – $4,085,000
- Approximately $736MM will be spent on the 2010 salaries of the 150 projected members of Opening Day rotations. That's an average of $4.9MM per pitcher.
- On average, a team will spend $24.5MM on its rotation in 2010. The median figure is $22.8MM.
- The White Sox, Tigers, Royals, Angels, Rockies, and Giants don't have any projected starters earning less than $1MM.
- The Blue Jays will pay more to Halladay in 2010 than they will pay their entire rotation.
- Thanks to Cot's Baseball Contracts for the salary data.
empathizerightonyourbehind
Am I wrong, or does Jeff Suppan + Randy Wolf +Doug Davis + Dave Bush = a lot more than the figure listed for the Brew Crew?
martinfv2
Gotta look at the spreadsheet, I’m not projecting Suppan as a rotation member.
empathizerightonyourbehind
even with just those other three, the figure is $19.75 MM in 2010, right?
martinfv2
Gallardo – 450K
Wolf – $9.25MM
Davis – $4.25MM
Bush – $4.215MM
Narveson – $400K
Total: $18.565MM
empathizerightonyourbehind
i guess i added it up wrong, but it still seems odd not to count suppan. he was signed as a starter and is paid more than any of them. just because he can’t cut the mustard, doesn’t mean that $12.5 MM doesn’t come out of the till.
martinfv2
Feel free to make your own sheet, I laid out the structure of this in the first paragraph of the post.
Pseudonymus Bosch
In my opinion, the best rotations in baseball are ranked 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th, 15th, 18th, 25th, and 29th. Which suggests to me that there might be a correlation between rotation pay and rotation talent, but in this age, with an emphasis on young guys rather than star free agents, the correlation is not as strong as you’d expect. The 29th-best-paid rotation might end up being the best of all.
The Nationals will jump a couple spots in late May or early June, when Chien-Ming Wang and Stephen Strasburg join the starting five. (Ross Detwiler might, too, but he will be earning the minimum.)
martinfv2
Wang should be noted in the spreadsheet, thanks.
Brian M
I don’t think the Rays have the best rotation. Certainly the most efficient though. I think the Red Sox, Yankees, and Giants are clearly better. Diamondbacks should get some love too as they are in the middle of the pack and if Webb returns to form they are among the elite rotations in baseball.
NL_East_Rivalry
How do you forget the Braves? Best rotation in the NL last year. Giants rotation got worse with the loss of the Unit and the Braves leveled out, losing Javier, but gaining Tim Hudson.
They had Huddy for 2 months, but didn’t have Hanson for 2 months, not to mention not having the likes of Reyes for the first month.
Jason_F
Randy Johnson provided the Giants with 0.4 WAR last season in 96 innings. The Unit really wasn’t all that impressive. Whoever effectively replaces him in the 5th spot in the rotation (it’s looking like Wellemeyer is gonna get the call) shouldn’t have a tough time matching his production. Giants, Cards and Braves, in no particular order, starting rotations should be the class of the NL.
Steve Espinosa
I dont know where to begin. You started out great. The top 3 are always up for debate. I personally think it is:
1. Boston
2. White Sox
3. Yankees
I think you can go either way with the White Sox and Yankees being #2 or #3. But when you skip over the Cardinals and the Angels and somehow slip in the Twins and Rockies over those rotations?
Ferrariman
wtf have the yankees done that so great?
a mid-low 3s era ace in sabathia
3 low 4s era guys in burnett-vasquez-petitte
and a rookie.
just stellar.
Jason_F
They did add Javy Vazquez and bring Hughes into the rotation. There are other methods of measuring the effectiveness of pitchers outside of ERA.
Not saying that he will match it in 2010, but Vazquez was one of the best pitchers in baseball last season.
TwinsVet
So was Washburn for the better part of last year. Think he has a great season this year too?
Jason_F
It’s too bad the most recent memory anyone has of Washburn are those pesky 8 starts he had for Detroit where tossed up a 7.33 ERA…not to mention all of his peripherals suggested he was the same pitcher last year blessed with some very good luck, good defense and a pitcher-friendly home ballpark. Washburn’s FIP was right in line with his career norms.
You must’ve skipped right over the part where I said of Vazquez, “Not saying that he will match it in 2010.” You would be insane to not want Javier Vazquez as your 4th starter.
User 4245925809
No knock on Sabathia and Burnett, but i got to see Vazquez do this in the AL and in NY. This guy hasn’t ever done anything, except mirror Tim Wakefield as a career .500 back of the rotation pitcher once you throw out those 2 years spent in pitcher friendly (and NL) Atlanta.
Hughes should be the real deal and help the NYY 2 ways by moving Chamberlain back to the BP where he always belonged and giving them a dominant 8th inning guy.
strikethree
If any of those pitchers pitch anywhere besides the AL East, they would each knock off .5-1+ runs off their ERA.
(Don’t forget that they also have to pitch in YS for half their games)
Ferrariman
sure i love the facts
CC sabathia: he averaged a 3.83era with his entire tenure with the indians. thats actually .5era HIGHER NOT LOWER. so much for that one
Burnett: in his tenure with florida: 3.73era. thats a whopping .3 era less than what he put up last season. ( i didn’t inclue his time with the jays cuz thats still AL east).
insider.espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove09/insider/columns…
the new yankee stadium played as a neutral park. slight edge to pitcher-friendly. its just a homerun happy spot for lefties that was heavily exploited by damon/matsui/teixeria etc.
strikethree
NYS not a hitter’s park?
Yeah, okay.
I love ESPN. These are the same people, night after night, calling for the stadium to be rebuilt bcause it IS such a hitter’s park.
The park didn’t yield as many runs as other stadiums but that is the cause and effect fallacy. NYS didn’t yield as many runs so it must be a pitcher’s park, right? No. How about the Yankees pitching staff being good enough to limit these runs?
It’s only been a year and we need more data to fully evaluate the park factors. (There have been years where “hitters parks” finished low in the runs scored department. Very rare, but it has happened. )
Just by dimensions alone, pitchers will give up more HR’s in that park.
Ferrariman
sabathia: 3.83era with cleveland
burnett: 3.73era with florida
yeah big difference. actually sabathia did better in the AL east.
and yankee stadium is not a hitters park. it is a homerun park. their’s a difference. if your a guy like adam dunn, you enjoy the NYS. if your a slap hitter type player, than NYS is your worst nightmare.
strikethree
Sabathia didn’t start posting ace type numbers until 2005.
Before that, he was not the same pitcher we see today. That is why his aggregate numbers are higher. (The same with Burnett) We don’t factor in these “growing pains” because they are usually outliers. For instance, Tim Lincecum isn’t a 4.00 ERA pitcher like his first year would suggest. Jon Lester posted ERA’s near 5 for his first two seasons.
Care to tell me how Sabathia did with the NL? How about Vazquez? Pettitte?
Why did you leave the rest of the rotation out? Only 1 pitcher, Sabathia posted higher aggregate numbers outside of the AL East and that was already explained.
Just use plain common sense: You play most of your games against AL East opponents. All of whom, minus the O’s (who were still 16th in runs scored), ranked highly in the runs scored department.
BentoBox
White Sox over Braves ? Rays ? Really now.
gigantes2425
some white sox fan told him they were.
Steve Espinosa
Some White Sox fan and some guy named Buster Olney too.
Steve Espinosa
White Sox have the Rays beat by far. Braves by a little bit.
The White Sox 1-4 is no doubt better than the Braves.
Ferrariman
how so?
il go over peavy over hudson
il go under buerhle under jair
il go under floyd/danks under hanson
il go over floyd/danks over kawakami
not sure who either team’s 5th starter will be, but chances are it will be pretty close.
gs01
Rogers are so cheap, Blue Jays at no 30.
Shoeless_Joe
I’d rather the Jays pay next nothing to develop the young pitchers rather then spend stupid money on a Brad penny type. At this stage it should be quite obvious that all of the teams resources goes to signing and developing young talent, ie Heichevia.
Despite the fact the Jays staff is the lowest paid they certainly won’t be the worst. There’s talent both at the MLB and in the minors.
martinfv2
I agree with this…I found it interesting how little they’re spending, but it’s not a bad thing.
thelaser69
This is obviously assuming Suppan is not in the Brewers’ rotation, otherwise they would be pushing $30m. Also, $4m of Wolf’s contract is deferred, so if we don’t count Soup and take out that 4, the Brewers are actually only paying their rotation like $14.5m this year
martinfv2
That’s a good point, this sheet does not account for deferrals. Or incentives.
Brian M
Wow the Twins and Rays do a really good job at producing a strong rotation at an unheard of low cost. I think it is a tribute to their drafting, scouting and developing of young pitchers.
jhd5787
unfortunately they probably wont be able to retain those good young arms they develop. It is sad.
j6takish
I knew the Rays were an efficient team, but wow….
Drew 13
And when you think about it, $7MM of the Twins number is locked up in Pavano. Had he not accepted arbitration and the Twins not picked up another “veteran arm,” we’d probably be right about $6MM. That’d be Slowey, Baker, Blackburn, Liriano, and Swarzak/Duensing/Perkins.
the_show
The Cubs are not getting good value for their dollar…Hendry really needs to go.
Ferrariman
oh its fine.
zambrano will have a mid-low 3s era.
lilly will be mid 3s
wells will be mid-high 3s
dempster probably hover around 4
and silva…well..he’s silva. and he has a cool last name.
not the best rotation, not even the best in the division, but its good.
the_show
the rotation may be decent but not at that price
TwinsVet
OMG… You guys are putting Silva in the rotation?
This is going to be fantastic to watch. I’ll be turning to WGN every 5th day. It’ll be funnier than their Funniest Home Video re-runs.
valpohistory
He actually has been fantastic this spring. Outside of his first outing where he was adjusting himself to the new style Rothschild was asking him to throw, he has pitched phenomenal. He is throwing from a different side of the mound(to the right I believe), and getting his arm more across his body, which is making his sinker actually sink again, and making his slider to righties start closer to them and end up more on the outside corner, rather than right over the heart of the plate. He’s still not going to be an ace for what he’s paid but compared to what he used to look like, he could be pleasantly surprising. You should still tune in, I always tune in and root for the Twins when they play the Sox. I love Gardenhire.
TwinsVet
I’m sorry, no disrespect or anything, but I just can’t fathom Silva becoming serviceable. I spent too many years watching Chief up here.
Good for him if he does though – he was a pleasant guy, just a miserable pitcher.
valpohistory
I can absolutely respect that. He was god awful in Seattle and not particularly outstanding in Minnesota. Maybe the NL will be kinder to him. Also for you, what do you think, Liriano as closer? I know it has been tossed around as a possibility. I got a chuckle when I read that Liriano was the leader for the 5th spot in the rotation as well as for the closer.
TwinsVet
All the hype is Liriano has a lock on the 5th spot, and there’s even clamor that he’s going to return to 2006 form. Personally, I’ve seen enough abysmal pitching out of his since 2006 to never again let him start a game in a Twins uniform. Consider me one of the skeptics that he’ll ever again be useful, in any role – character problems are trumping his natural talent.
Drew 13
More than just hype now. He’s already penned in for the April 9th start.
J
He can’t be that much of a jerk. Give the guy a break. He had a major injury & has struggled coming back. He’s still young & cheap so of course the Twins will give him more chances.
TwinsVet
1. He started his MLB career by getting a DUI in spring training.
2. He failed to disclose the nature of his injury in 2006, potentially leading to increased damage.
3. He and/or his agent trumped up allegations of “trying to keep him from Super-Two status!” when he was held in the minors in 2008.
4. He refused to accept the closer role, in spite of being asked to as a “It’s where the team needs you most right now” situation just this past week.
Top it off with the fact that the entire reason he’s struggled since returning from TJ is he lacks the composure to keep his focus on the mound, and the guy’s a problem.
J
So he struggled after a major injury with a rebuilt arm because of composure? What he’s not allowed to struggle? Him not throwing as hard wasn’t lack of focus. He didn’t have a problem when he was a rookie. Sounds like you’re nitpicking. The DUI is major. But has he been in trouble since?
I don’t blame him for not wanting to be a closer when he still has a shot at being a good SP. Everyone is not cut out for the role. I thought it was media spec anyway, not the Twins asking.
J
So he struggled after a major injury with a rebuilt arm because of composure? What he’s not allowed to struggle? Him not throwing as hard wasn’t lack of focus. He didn’t have a problem when he was a rookie. Sounds like you’re nitpicking. The DUI is major. But has he been in trouble since?
I don’t blame him for not wanting to be a closer when he still has a shot at being a good SP. Everyone is not cut out for the role. I thought it was media spec anyway, not the Twins asking.
truthteller49
isn’t it funny how this happens from time to time. Liriano was devastatingly good in 06 the year my Tigers went to the WS. I remember no one could touch him, amazing control , a strike thrower who would give you at least 7 in! I don’t know about him as you do being a Twins fan and all, but it’s got to be mental. Maybe when he got injured he’s scared to really test it in fear of re-injuring it? Whatever the reason he was scary good! Your Twins Sir, our a royal pain in the butt! Wow, after getting over the heartbreak of losing, I must say it was the greatest game I have ever seen! I’m old so trust me it was a special game! Twins are an amazing team. They are always at the bottom in payroll, but contend year after year! Great minor league program, Great GM and owner! Looking forward to the rematch’s this year and vindication!!!
foxtown
If you take out Silva’s outrageous contract, their pitching payroll looks a lot better. Unfortunately, he is there #4 starter.
Suzysman
Nope
Take out Silva and we are still ending up in the same exact spot – second highest amount on the list with roughly 44 MM to a 5 man of Zambrano/Dempster/Lilly/Wells/Gorzelanny.
UnknownPoster
I think this shows why so many are suprised at the Cain extension. When he is paid 15m, him and Zito will be ~35m… Which would put them 7th… Before paying for Lincecum.
Also, for anyone who just looks at this, it should be pointed put that 11 of the 21m for the Dodgers goes to Kuroda, and the other 4 get a combined 10m
55saveslives
Jonathan Sanchez only makes 1 mill and Giants have Madison Bumgarner and Kevin Pucetas who will make the minimum when called up so it evens out…
Jason_F
From Cot’s:
Jonathan Sanchez lhp
1 year/$2.1M (2010)
55saveslives
In baseball terms, that’s like me comparing the coins in my pocket vs. the coins in my car ashtray… 😛
UnknownPoster
Im saying in 2012, when Cain will make 15M. Sanchez will be up to at least 5M(although I dont know his exact contract status, Im guessing he’ll be in arbitration).
And can you really guarantee that Bumgarner will do anything in the majors when he hasnt been above 88 since last May?
55saveslives
“And can you really guarantee that Bumgarner will do anything in the majors when he hasnt been above 88 since last May?”
Why not? you guys say that Billingsley and Russell Martin will be great this year…
There are no guarantees in baseball…Madison is 20 yrs old and has been throwing too much in the off season. Once he gets his form back he should be ok. At this point I’m not worried. If it continues throughout the season, then I’ll think about it.
Also, if Sanchez has a good season, he will be trade bait. We have a plethora of young pitchers…Bumgarner, Pucetas, Sosa, Wheeler just to name a few..
UnknownPoster
The difference is we know why these guys struggled. Billingsley had a broken leg which changed his offseason program and lead to hamstring issues. Martin has played more games than anyone else at the catcher position. I think everyone has said that Martin will bounce back if he gets more rest.
We have no idea what is wrong with Bumgarner. The Giants insist he isnt hurt, and if he was, you would think they wouldnt have called him up last year. More so, the ‘dead arm’ theory no longer works because this is has been going on for almost a whole year. The first reports of him working in the 80s came in May and have continued through ST.
And throwing too much? Apparently, the Giants were angry he came out of shape.. which would imply he did little-to-nothing this offseason.
I understood that some fans werent worried at the end of last season, but, by now, Id be very worried about Bumgarner. Im sorry, but he isnt going to succeed as a starter in the league with a mid 80s fastball and average or worse secondary stuff…
If Sanchez has a good enough year to be considered an established pitcher, why would you trade him? He will make no more than 6-7M, and, unless Bumgarner or some other prospect comes up and dominates, trading Sanchez next year would have the Giants go into 2011 with 3 starters and two open holes…
55saveslives
Russell Martin started 133 games last season and 138 the season before. How much rest is necessary? Bengie started 120 and 132.
Bumgarner throws in between his normal rotation and throws after too. Coming in out of shape doesn’t mean he wasn’t throwing. It could mean he ate too many cheeseburgers.
If Sanchez becomes established, why not see what’s out there offensively? As I said, we have a plethora of pitching. We need bats.
UnknownPoster
I am not sure where you got those numbers, but Martin has played in 121 games in 06(in a partial season), and 151, 155, and 143 in 07-09…. which is 570 games over 4 seasons… thats a lot of games for a catcher, and thats why he has hit a wall offensively.
All pitchers throw in between their rotation and some throw after(almost every prospect throws after). Stop trying to make excuses, your manager said he came in out of shape to pitch.. to most, that means his arm wasnt ready.. which would imply he didnt throw enough in the offseason.
You can see whats out there, Im just saying that if you do and get a bat, the Giants will have only 3 established starters in 2011, and one will be Barry Zito… do you really wanna trade Sanchez now?
UnknownPoster
Here is the Martin numbers:
baseball-reference.com/players/m/martiru01.shtml
55saveslives
I looked at Yahoo’s numbers for games started…not games altogether…
sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7628/career;_ylt=Amba…
Just out of curiosity…why do you get so bent out of shape when someone says something remotely bad about the Dodgers? I said Madison is throwing too much…you say I’m making excuses. You say Martin played too much…isn’t that the same thing?? Or it’s ok for you to make excuses??
I’ve said all along, the season needs to be played out first. Maybe Madison loses his velocity altogether? Maybe Martin hits .400 with 75 HR’s…we’ll have to see.
Either way, I can take criticism about the Giants when it’s due. YES Sabean is a horrible GM, YES Rowand and Zito were horrible investments. YES the Alderson/Sanchez trade was bad.
Just once I’d like to see guys like you , iv, vta just be honest…
Oh well. I know it won’t happen…Peace out man. I gotta get back to work.
See it’s not hard to say honest things about my team.
UnknownPoster
I noticed later on that you said games started. For catchers, I think it is important to have total games played because, at least for martin, it seemed many times, Torre would put him in in the 7th and he’d finish the game. Doesnt sound like much, but when that is supposed to be the off day(and lets say he gets 1 every 2 weeks), those extra 3 innings are innings that he couldnt sit and relax and heal any wounds…
I cannot speak for others, but the reason I get angry when people try to tell me stuff about the Dodgers is because it is obvious they do not know all the facts. If you look at Martin’s and Billingsley’s numbers last year online, they look horrible. However, if you follow the team, you realize that there were specific reasons why they were bad.
Regarding Bumgarner, I personally dont like when any young pitcher loses velocity and there is no injury. I was worried for him, as a baseball fan, not a Dodger fan, when he was throwing in the 80s in SF. To me, if he was hurt, the Giants were doing him a disservice by pitching him, and he was doing himself one by trying to fight through something. And if he wasnt hurt… well, then where the hell did the velocity go?
Honesty? Colletti is as bad, if not worse, than Sabean. Torre has no trust in young players, even though they are the reason we are where we are. Torre shouldnt be allowed to handle pitchers. Bonds was probably the most impressive hitter I have ever seen. Frank McCourt is… by FAR… the worst owner in baseball… i can go on forever
55saveslives
Sabean mentored Colletti well!
I was actually shocked when Dodgers signed Jason Schmidt being Colletti AND head trainer Stan Conte were both there. Yes…Sabean rubbed off on Colletti well…
lol
UnknownPoster
um… ‘mentored’
ugh! haha
jhd5787
anyone shocked the yankees are the most expensive rotation?
Luke_G
yes
jhd5787
i hope you are kidding
Ferrariman
and their not even the best rotation in baseball…not even top 5 IMO. top 10 for sure though.
Guest 2840
Just shows how the Rays do buisness.
VinnyG917
I find it sad that the Mets are #4 in money spent, but really only have one good pitcher.
Im not sure of the number, but im figuring Santana is accountable for about 60% of that number? Then probably 25% is the money wasted on Perez. The other 15% is split between Pelfrey and Maine (and Niese, Nieve, and 10 other possibly starters). That rotation isn’t worth $38mm.
NL_East_Rivalry
Did you see who Number 2 was? Not saying the Cubs pitchers are bad, they just all seemed to have a bad year at the same time.
Suzysman
Huh? What the heck are you talking about?
in 2009, Zambrano had his best season in years – he just isnt an ace and shouldnt be making 18MM/Yr like we pay him for whatever reason.
Dempster pitched better then most people expected him to, and really provided an ERA which matched his 2008 FIP very well. 09 was a good year for him, he just isnt worth 13MM/yr
Ted Lilly provided his career year last year! Yeah, it was his best season ever. And he is worth his 10MM/yr AAV, but when coupled with the two money-pits above we are still well undervalue overall
Oh, and then of course we had rookie Wells who comes out of no where to post a 3.0 ERA over 165 innings
If anything, the Cubs rotation had peak years at the same time last year – and it didnt mean much of anything…
Fangaffes
Wow! Even after adding Lackey the Red Sox are over $20M behind the Yankees. Much more than that, if you consider that Wakefield will be in the opening rotation, rather than Matsuzaka.
grant77
Funny how some of the top 10 projected rotations in the game (Rays, Jays, Twins, A’s) are near the very bottom.
Derek Florko
and imagine if the a’s didnt have 10 mil on sheets
thegoldenone
Yep just wait until after mid season when he gets traded and if Duke is hurt again by then. Then what will it be at.
thegrayrace
Talk about poor value for the Mets. Ouch.
TwinsVet
That’s what happens when you go out and make one of your guys the highest paid pitcher in the game (at the time).
Giants, Yankees, and Mets all top that list, and it’s largely because of a single free agent (Johan essentially was) signing that put them there.
Suzysman
try having two such contracts :*(
Up-yours Hendry!
OregonCardsFan
I noticed you had Wainwright as the Cardinals #1 starter, but I wasn’t sure if you listed Carpenter as the Opening Day starter for the stat above…
cowboy2024
I noticed you included Lilly in the Cubs rotation even though he won’t be there for a few weeks (at best) and you didn’t included a guy like Volquez from Cincy. Did you include guys that will most likely be back within a month and leave guys that will most likely be out longer than that off the list?
0bsessions
One has to assume he was basing this off of the most likely rotation for the majority of the season. The Red Sox have Matsuzaka in there instead of Wakefield and Matsuzaka realistically won’t be starting MLB games until close to May.